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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
15. It is refreshing to have a well reasoned position presented
Sat May 26, 2012, 02:38 PM
May 2012

I don't agree with your conclusions but it is now possible to see why our thought on the matter diverges. You are placing primacy on the role of a bureaucracy in shaping this hypothetical future response. I can't prove it, of course, but I'm personally certain that would not be the case.

As you noted the "notion of a logarithmic scale is meant to condition media reporting" - and in fact it has done just that; the pyramid imagery and the log scale of emissions are irrevocably linked. Consequently for good or ill the conceptual basis has been laid in the public and media's mind and will (IMO) be a determining factor in the way a 'megameltdown' shall we say, is eventually placed into the existing mental models of those interested.

I believe we can agree that the "rhetorical purposes" of the designers are well demonstrated by the article in post 8 - they were attempting to downplay the risk and reassure the public. They were convinced that Chernobyl was a one off event and did not take into consideration the unintended consequences of the choices made to achieve their "rhetorical purposes". Sure, they controlled the design of the tool, but they will not control the way the other 99.999999999999% of the world instinctively uses that tool to do the new task of talking about a 'megameltdown'.


Let's hope we never have to find out who is correct.

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Current Fukishima headlines #2: [View all] dixiegrrrrl May 2012 OP
There's no contradiction. kristopher May 2012 #1
WRONG AS ALWAYS!! PamW May 2012 #5
Wrong way Pam strikes again... kristopher May 2012 #8
thank you, Kristopher. dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #6
dupe: delete dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #7
Flat wrong. FBaggins May 2012 #10
Chernobyl, does, in fact represent the present peak of the conceptual pyramid kristopher May 2012 #11
I don't see why the "pyramid" would ever be "rebuilt" caraher May 2012 #13
These go to eleven OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #14
It is refreshing to have a well reasoned position presented kristopher May 2012 #15
Amen to that last part caraher May 2012 #27
Nope. An active imagination doesn't mean you have a clue. FBaggins May 2012 #21
Further evidence is found on page 29 FBaggins May 2012 #22
You're a hoot, Baggins. kristopher May 2012 #23
Were you going to adress any of the evidence AT ALL? FBaggins May 2012 #24
Major problems’ with radiation testing for children dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #2
TEPCO's post-mortem shows No. 2 reactor main source of radiation dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #3
Yesterday the WHO said radiation levels were low in Japan WTF? Frosty1 May 2012 #4
Probably a lot of the radiation has gone due to half-life decay NickB79 May 2012 #9
Preliminary Dose Estimation from the nuclear accident after the 2011 Great East Japan Earthquake… OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #12
What do you think about that report? Reliable? dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #16
Yeah… I'm going to trust the UN OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #17
Accepting this statement by the WHO... kristopher May 2012 #18
I don't think the WHO is colluding with the nuclear power industry OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #19
It isn't a matter of collusion. kristopher May 2012 #20
Your implication is that the WHO cannot be trusted OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #25
I didn't imply anything. kristopher May 2012 #26
Garwin called them "deliberately misleading" bananas May 2012 #28
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