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NNadir

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17. It would be interesting to learn if there are any antinuke idiots who can demonstrate that...
Sun Apr 30, 2023, 05:37 PM
Apr 2023

...plutonium, including its use at Nagasaki, has killed in the 80 years since its discovery, as many people as will die in the next month from air pollution.

That would be about 600,000 people.

Here is a widely cited scientific paper on risk and the related death toll:

Global burden of 87 risk factors in 204 countries and territories, 1990–2019: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2019 (Lancet Volume 396, Issue 10258, 17–23 October 2020, Pages 1223-1249).

It's written by a class of people called "scientists."

If there is any reference to deaths from nuclear wars, plutonium, or anything that paranoids using guilt by association fallacy, a hallmark of an inability to think clearly, I would be pleased to hear about it.

In general, though, I don't expect paranoids to read scientific papers.

Generally they're just goofs.

Nuclear scientists really don't care about these tiresome evocations of nuclear wars. Just as a solar and wind nirvana has not come, is not here, and will not come, having last been observed in the 18th century, nuclear wars are not observed.

Fossil fuel wars are observed, but nuclear wars aren't. I never hear anyone whining about plutonium insipidly giving a shit about banning gasoline because of napalm, which had killed, even by 1945, more people than plutonium ever did.

But so be it.

I'm very happy today because an idea I've explored for a long time being discussed by intelligent, well educated people.

I really don't care what people who don't qualify in this class present as "thinking."

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do you think anyone would be bothering if not for everyone asking those questions, tho? mopinko Apr 2023 #1
I agree with you on this Miguelito Loveless Apr 2023 #2
not me. u mean the op? mopinko Apr 2023 #7
Oops. Sorry Miguelito Loveless Apr 2023 #13
The fossil fuel industry dumps toxic and deadly waste into the atmosphere continuously. NNadir Apr 2023 #3
hey, i have all the same reservations about renewables as you mopinko Apr 2023 #9
Um, nuclear energy has the highest energy to mass ratio of any form of energy, by far. NNadir Apr 2023 #28
So you are/have been pro-nukular energy, if I understand correctly? 🤔 sprinkleeninow Apr 2023 #4
The solar industry depends on access to dangerous fossil fuels. It's dirty and unsustainable. NNadir Apr 2023 #5
The name Hanford rang a bell. I consulted the google. sprinkleeninow Apr 2023 #6
My local small town utility has a 5 MW PV solar array jpak Apr 2023 #10
This poster is quite pro-nuke Miguelito Loveless Apr 2023 #15
We have done battle on this forum for many many years - I know him well. jpak Apr 2023 #26
What DQIIIIIIII totally ignores is that the cost of electricity isn't a constant... Finishline42 May 2023 #32
The rhetoric in the google result is rather nonsensical. NNadir Apr 2023 #11
And it takes an enormous amount of coal-fired electricity to enrich uranium for reactor fuel jpak Apr 2023 #12
Centuries? Miguelito Loveless Apr 2023 #16
Yup jpak Apr 2023 #21
That's nonsense. NNadir Apr 2023 #18
More percent talk I suppose jpak Apr 2023 #19
"The lifetime of solar cells is generally reported to be between 20 to 25 years" Caribbeans Apr 2023 #22
It might be useful to open a scientific paper rather than continuously producing marketing documents NNadir Apr 2023 #24
More "percent talk" - that's a No-No ya know jpak Apr 2023 #25
I suppose that's why we had a (collapsing - lol) Atmospheric Test Ban Treaty jpak Apr 2023 #23
I have read and then considered your points. Appreciated. 👊 sprinkleeninow Apr 2023 #29
You're very welcome. Thanks for reading. N/t. NNadir May 2023 #31
Kim Jong-un agrees - lots of "valuable stuff" in spent fuel jpak Apr 2023 #8
It would be interesting to learn if there are any antinuke idiots who can demonstrate that... NNadir Apr 2023 #17
Plutonium could potentially solve the human overpopulation problem on the planet - yup jpak Apr 2023 #20
I agree with you on most of this, Miguelito Loveless Apr 2023 #14
I think Performance Art should be excluded from this Group. nt Brenda Apr 2023 #27
So should religion and climate change denial... hunter May 2023 #30
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