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Finishline42

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32. What DQIIIIIIII totally ignores is that the cost of electricity isn't a constant...
Mon May 1, 2023, 08:18 PM
May 2023

His number one decision point is the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics followed by nuclear energy has the highest energy to mass ratio of any form of energy.

But the utility companies work on the cost of electricity at a given point in time. Which is why they are buying every Megapack they can get their hands on. Which is why Hydro Storage and HVDC makes sense. Which is why they buy the output from wind and solar farms.

BTW, I am not anti-nuke. I think we should keep every current operational nuke plant going for as long as practical.

But the fact is, we aren't building 85 new nuclear reactors to double the current 19% contribution to our electrical grid that nuclear makes. The reason is simple economics. A new reactor takes 10 years to build (costs with no income) and once operational it takes decades to pay for their costs. And during those at least 3 decades wind, solar and energy storage will continue to get cheaper.

The two reactors in South Carolina were stopped half way thru construction because the ratepayers refused to pay for them and the utility didn't see the demand. That's not going to change anytime soon.

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do you think anyone would be bothering if not for everyone asking those questions, tho? mopinko Apr 2023 #1
I agree with you on this Miguelito Loveless Apr 2023 #2
not me. u mean the op? mopinko Apr 2023 #7
Oops. Sorry Miguelito Loveless Apr 2023 #13
The fossil fuel industry dumps toxic and deadly waste into the atmosphere continuously. NNadir Apr 2023 #3
hey, i have all the same reservations about renewables as you mopinko Apr 2023 #9
Um, nuclear energy has the highest energy to mass ratio of any form of energy, by far. NNadir Apr 2023 #28
So you are/have been pro-nukular energy, if I understand correctly? 🤔 sprinkleeninow Apr 2023 #4
The solar industry depends on access to dangerous fossil fuels. It's dirty and unsustainable. NNadir Apr 2023 #5
The name Hanford rang a bell. I consulted the google. sprinkleeninow Apr 2023 #6
My local small town utility has a 5 MW PV solar array jpak Apr 2023 #10
This poster is quite pro-nuke Miguelito Loveless Apr 2023 #15
We have done battle on this forum for many many years - I know him well. jpak Apr 2023 #26
What DQIIIIIIII totally ignores is that the cost of electricity isn't a constant... Finishline42 May 2023 #32
The rhetoric in the google result is rather nonsensical. NNadir Apr 2023 #11
And it takes an enormous amount of coal-fired electricity to enrich uranium for reactor fuel jpak Apr 2023 #12
Centuries? Miguelito Loveless Apr 2023 #16
Yup jpak Apr 2023 #21
That's nonsense. NNadir Apr 2023 #18
More percent talk I suppose jpak Apr 2023 #19
"The lifetime of solar cells is generally reported to be between 20 to 25 years" Caribbeans Apr 2023 #22
It might be useful to open a scientific paper rather than continuously producing marketing documents NNadir Apr 2023 #24
More "percent talk" - that's a No-No ya know jpak Apr 2023 #25
I suppose that's why we had a (collapsing - lol) Atmospheric Test Ban Treaty jpak Apr 2023 #23
I have read and then considered your points. Appreciated. 👊 sprinkleeninow Apr 2023 #29
You're very welcome. Thanks for reading. N/t. NNadir May 2023 #31
Kim Jong-un agrees - lots of "valuable stuff" in spent fuel jpak Apr 2023 #8
It would be interesting to learn if there are any antinuke idiots who can demonstrate that... NNadir Apr 2023 #17
Plutonium could potentially solve the human overpopulation problem on the planet - yup jpak Apr 2023 #20
I agree with you on most of this, Miguelito Loveless Apr 2023 #14
I think Performance Art should be excluded from this Group. nt Brenda Apr 2023 #27
So should religion and climate change denial... hunter May 2023 #30
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