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FBaggins

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24. Were you going to adress any of the evidence AT ALL?
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:18 PM
May 2012

I gave you the cutoff for Level 7... and I showed you that they clearly deal with a scenario hundreds of times larger than that threshhold... but left it at a 7 because that's the top of the scale. They even explicitly stopped calculating much larger releases because once you get to a 7, there's nowhere else to go.

Don't you think you should contemplate this total inability to recognize when you're wrong? The evidence here couldn't be clearer yet you keep up the spin? Don't you think that damages any credibility you might have with others when you make other pronouncements?


As I said, it doesn't matter what the toolmaker says about how they think this is going to apply to an event that dwarfs Chernobyl, they aren't going to control the message.

That's an interesting attempt at spin. We've cleverly shifted from the claim that this is how the scale is designed, to a claim that the design is irrelevant and some imagined public outcry would force them to change the standard if a real "Chernobyl on steroids" were to occur one day.

I remember how hard you flogged the idea that it was a log scale when they upgraded Fukushima to a 7 in order to promote the idea that Fukushima wasn't really consequential at all.

Then you remember incorrectly (is anyone shocked?). What I did say was that the scale didn't make sense if Three Mile Island was really a 5. That Fukushima (at that time not thought to have released anything close to the current estimates) was many MANY times worse than TMI but nowhere near as bad as Chernobyl (clarification - Esentially that there wasn't enough room between 5-7 to fit Fukushima and the only 6 on the scale.) The mistake I was making was the same one that you're making here... the assumption that Chernobyl was anywhere near the bottom end of the seven range.

In reality, Fukushima could easily be 100 times as bad as TMI and still be nowhere near Chernobyl... because Chernobyl is roughly 100 times as bad as the bottom end of Level 7.

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Current Fukishima headlines #2: [View all] dixiegrrrrl May 2012 OP
There's no contradiction. kristopher May 2012 #1
WRONG AS ALWAYS!! PamW May 2012 #5
Wrong way Pam strikes again... kristopher May 2012 #8
thank you, Kristopher. dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #6
dupe: delete dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #7
Flat wrong. FBaggins May 2012 #10
Chernobyl, does, in fact represent the present peak of the conceptual pyramid kristopher May 2012 #11
I don't see why the "pyramid" would ever be "rebuilt" caraher May 2012 #13
These go to eleven OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #14
It is refreshing to have a well reasoned position presented kristopher May 2012 #15
Amen to that last part caraher May 2012 #27
Nope. An active imagination doesn't mean you have a clue. FBaggins May 2012 #21
Further evidence is found on page 29 FBaggins May 2012 #22
You're a hoot, Baggins. kristopher May 2012 #23
Were you going to adress any of the evidence AT ALL? FBaggins May 2012 #24
Major problems’ with radiation testing for children dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #2
TEPCO's post-mortem shows No. 2 reactor main source of radiation dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #3
Yesterday the WHO said radiation levels were low in Japan WTF? Frosty1 May 2012 #4
Probably a lot of the radiation has gone due to half-life decay NickB79 May 2012 #9
Preliminary Dose Estimation from the nuclear accident after the 2011 Great East Japan Earthquake… OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #12
What do you think about that report? Reliable? dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #16
Yeah… I'm going to trust the UN OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #17
Accepting this statement by the WHO... kristopher May 2012 #18
I don't think the WHO is colluding with the nuclear power industry OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #19
It isn't a matter of collusion. kristopher May 2012 #20
Your implication is that the WHO cannot be trusted OKIsItJustMe May 2012 #25
I didn't imply anything. kristopher May 2012 #26
Garwin called them "deliberately misleading" bananas May 2012 #28
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