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NickB79

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22. Fossil fuels are far more than energy in our world
Sun Jun 11, 2023, 08:32 AM
Jun 2023

They're plastics. They're fertilizer. They're pesticides. They're industrial chemicals. All these processes release carbon. Plastics alone are set to quadruple by 2050

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/09/735848489/plastic-has-a-big-carbon-footprint-but-that-isnt-the-whole-story


All told, Muffett says, "emissions from plastics production and incineration could account to 56 gigatons of carbon between now and 2050." That's 56 billion tons, or almost 50 times the annual emissions of all of the coal power plants in the U.S. Another study, led by researcher Songwon Suh at the University of California, Santa Barbara, predicted even more emissions from plastic manufacturing and packaging than CIEL's report did.


And a 100% renewable energy planet would still have a land use issue. A sizeable chunk of our carbon emissions come from agriculture destroying forests, forests being logged, and plowing liberating carbon from soil. Approximately 20% of our current emissions come from this. A lot of this is our desire for meat, especially beef, which is rising globally with no sign of stopping. As nation's become more wealthy, they invariably eat more meat.

So, even in a 100% renewable energy world, we have an extinction event. We'll keep dumping plastic into the ocean, keep catching the last fish for food, keep spraying farmland with pesticides, and keep clearing rainforest for beef cattle

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Great rant, but... Think. Again. Jun 2023 #1
Yeah, no, we actually don't know how Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2023 #2
well then I guess... Think. Again. Jun 2023 #4
Pretty much, yup. Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2023 #5
so 50 years, give or take... Think. Again. Jun 2023 #6
Actually... Think. Again. Jun 2023 #9
Caught between a rock and a hard place Random Boomer Jun 2023 #12
We are in full agreement, well said (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2023 #13
Poor Oil Companies? Fuck no. Brenda Jun 2023 #14
Some life can survive, sure Random Boomer Jun 2023 #26
Rather than just waiting... Think. Again. Jun 2023 #15
We'll keep doing what we do until we can't, and then we won't. hatrack Jun 2023 #16
Exactly, thank you .... anciano Jun 2023 #19
That's the human story in a nutshell n/t Random Boomer Jun 2023 #25
Apparently... Think. Again. Jun 2023 #17
And more recently... Think. Again. Jun 2023 #18
Fossil fuels are far more than energy in our world NickB79 Jun 2023 #22
Just how long do you think this will take? Random Boomer Jun 2023 #24
+1 Kaleva Jun 2023 #23
Hell yes!! Duppers Jun 2023 #21
The end is near? keithbvadu2 Jun 2023 #3
Great toons, Pizza Rat and building the pyramids, scary funny. appalachiablue Jun 2023 #7
Kinda funny Brenda Jun 2023 #8
A bit of gallows humor and levity in view of the painful reality. Yes greedy, powermad humans appalachiablue Jun 2023 #10
He's so good with words Brenda Jun 2023 #11
K & R x 1000 Duppers Jun 2023 #20
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