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thatdemguy

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5. I will admit I am anti hydrogen. read below

Mon Jul 10, 2023, 10:27 AM

Jul 2023

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I am against hydrogen for a few reasons. One the most economical way to get it is nat gas and the only by product of that is Co2.

It is very energy intensive to get it any other way. It has a very low energy density even when at cryo temps. The best use is in fuel cells, which do make sense in cars.

Read the below USDOE on trying to use ammonia in anything beyond and industrial setting for hydrogen storage. By the time you you make hydrogen, convert it to ammonia and then convert it back its a loss of engery

opps forgot the link
https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/articles/potential-roles-ammonia-hydrogen-economy#:~:text=Ammonia%20can%20be%20decomposed%20(cracked,toxic%2C%20non%2Dgreenhouse%20gas.

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Researchers discover safe, easy, and affordable way to store and retrieve hydrogen [View all] Jim__ Jul 2023 OP

Our oligarch overlords will not permit easy and free sources of energy. Irish_Dem Jul 2023 #1

This is about hydrogen storage, not about sources of energy. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #4

So all the talk about hydrogen has nothing to do with energy? Irish_Dem Jul 2023 #7

This thread was about storing hydrogen energy, not producing hydrogen Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #12

Yet another step forward... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #2

Good point. BComplex Jul 2023 #3

Hydrogen combustibility is different, both good and bad Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2023 #6

materials to store and transport hydrogen.... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #9

I will admit I am anti hydrogen. read below thatdemguy Jul 2023 #5

yes... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #8

More than a loss of energy at each stage, its a loss over all thatdemguy Jul 2023 #11

My apologies... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #13

Why would we want to do this? hunter Jul 2023 #10

we will need to... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #14