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NNadir

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30. As for batteries, the literature suggests that on most US grids...
Mon Jul 24, 2023, 01:20 PM
Jul 2023

...EVs have a slightly lower carbon impact in cars, but nothing dramatic, since wild fantasies aside, most grids rely on fossil fuels.

Hybrids are better from an exergy destruction perspective.

Batteries on grids are disasters based on the fraudulent belief that so called "renewable energy" (except for hydro) is a meaningful source of primary energy. It hasn't been, isn't, and won't be.

The energy storage morons have simply relying on the irrational belief that electricity is magically independent from the overwhelmingly dependence on dangerous fossil fuels. They have no idea of what primary energy is, and are nearly as bad and toxic as the hydrogen salespeople and salesbots here.

China has over 100 million electric vehicles, mostly scooters. They effectively simply move pollution from urban areas to rural areas, and climate change is unaffected. In some cases the mortality associated with electric cars (not scooters) is higher than with gasoline cars.

Good luck with finding enough cobalt slaves to change all the world's cars into EVs. It's just another exercise is wishful thinking and delusion from my perspective.

After all this wishful thinking, hand waving and soothsaying, decade upon decade, the planet is in flames.

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America is not far behind! Will catch up here also! Lot of races starting from behind though. Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #1
reigning in out of control population growth would be more beneficial than hydrogen busses nt msongs Jul 2023 #18
Might want to do a little research... OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #19
It's not out of control, another myth that won't die...arms control did. Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #23
Stop the presses, there's A LUXURY BUS in India that's hydrogen powered, WHOA! Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #2
About those vast reservoirs... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #4
Uh huh ... Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #5
I understand... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #7
"We've known we could burn hydrogen as fuel for a real, real long time" Caribbeans Jul 2023 #11
Batteries work for "diurnal storage" (i.e. solar at night) OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #8
ok, let's do it! Think. Again. Jul 2023 #9
Read through the plan OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #10
"It's just too much work!" Caribbeans Jul 2023 #12
Preaching to the choir here... OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #13
Has anyone asked Biden... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #14
The truth about those panels is... OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #15
Barack Obama had new panels installed in 2013 OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #16
Thank You! Think. Again. Jul 2023 #17
The point of the article is how far the West is behind in new technologies, clinging to fossil. Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #24
Hydrogen IS clinging to fossil. NNadir Jul 2023 #27
If One ignores green hydrogen all arguments are facile. Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #28
Soothsaying is not reality. NNadir Jul 2023 #29
As for batteries, the literature suggests that on most US grids... NNadir Jul 2023 #30
Car manufacturers, all except Toyota, are spending billions and billions, they all wrong? Or you? Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #31
Their business is selling stuff, not environmental protection. NNadir Jul 2023 #32
The point of the article is how far the West is behind in new technologies, clinging to fossil. Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #25
👇👇👇👁️👁️ Goonch Jul 2023 #3
India has almost more highly skied scientists than America has guns. Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #26
Nikola is building hydrogen fuel cell semi trucks Beachnutt Jul 2023 #6
India, less than any other country on Earth, can least afford this fossil fuel wasting scam. NNadir Jul 2023 #20
You're wrong again... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #21
Here's this... note that "Green Hydrogen" produces no CO2... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #22
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