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Blues Heron

(8,847 posts)
5. They suspect but aren't sure
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 03:06 PM
Jul 2023

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Meier says it is hard to know if the changes are natural or human caused – or a mix of both – and says there is some evidence of a similar sudden swing from high levels of sea ice to very low in photographs from mid-1960s satellites.

Dr Andrew Meijers, an oceanographer at the British Antarctic Survey, says many climate scientists who were “not necessarily sea ice folk” suspect the drops since 2016 showed climate change had “finally burned through the natural barriers around the sea ice formed by the unique wind and atmospheric circulation”. But there was a lack of concrete evidence to support that view

“Overall, the feeling is something big is happening this year, and this is probably associated with the wider decline since 2016,” says Meijers. “Whether this is anthropogenically driven, and if so, what the driver may be, is still up for debate.”

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"There's a sense that something weird is going on." Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #1
agreed! nt FirstLight Jul 2023 #2
Yes, please! Less "we don't want to offend anyone," and more "hair on fire!" GPV Jul 2023 #3
Just wait until the wingnuts switch en masse to saying Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #4
They do, indeed! GPV Jul 2023 #13
Even people I know and respect OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #15
Every once in a while, I will point a Republican "skeptic" to this page OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #16
Anyone remember The Day After Tomorrow ? LiberalArkie Jul 2023 #23
Yes. Delphinus Jul 2023 #32
They suspect but aren't sure Blues Heron Jul 2023 #5
Like I say, mealy-mouthed bullshit ... Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #6
reread this part Blues Heron Jul 2023 #8
And this is winter in the Southern Hemisphere peppertree Jul 2023 #10
exactly Blues Heron Jul 2023 #12
I understand the reticence to make proclamations without peer-review Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #28
Meh, they are scientists, and get peer reviewed BlueIn_W_Pa Jul 2023 #19
Relax! He's going for precision. orthoclad Jul 2023 #26
I'll tell ya what's weird that's going on.... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #7
they are wondering what the actual mechanism is Blues Heron Jul 2023 #11
But it's NOT strange... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #17
According to these scientists who actually study this, its surprising. Blues Heron Jul 2023 #18
If the speed of all this... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #21
No, the models are generally underestimates. orthoclad Jul 2023 #27
You feel me :) (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #29
There goes Miami peppertree Jul 2023 #9
Ocean's been rising for thousands of years BlueIn_W_Pa Jul 2023 #20
I'm pretty sure there won't be contemporary maps to compare the 2023 condition in 200 years. jaxexpat Jul 2023 #22
We should look at coastlines from 125,000 years ago, orthoclad Jul 2023 #30
I Wintered Over1970 rickford66 Jul 2023 #14
J E Hansen: Scientific reticence and sea level rise OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #24
James Hansen et al: Climate change and trace gases OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #25
NSIDC: Antarctic Sea Ice Extent OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #31
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