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25. James Hansen et al: Climate change and trace gases
Sat Jul 29, 2023, 08:11 PM
Jul 2023
http://dx.doi.org/10.1098/rsta.2007.2052
PDF Here: https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/2007_Hansen_ha02210k.pdf
Palaeoclimate data show that the Earth’s climate is remarkably sensitive to global forcings. Positive feedbacks predominate. This allows the entire planet to be whipsawed between climate states. One feedback, the ‘albedo flip’ property of ice/water, provides a powerful trigger mechanism. A climate forcing that ‘flips’ the albedo of a sufficient portion of an ice sheet can spark a cataclysm. Inertia of ice sheet and ocean provides only moderate delay to ice sheet disintegration and a burst of added global warming. Recent greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions place the Earth perilously close to dramatic climate change that could run out of our control, with great dangers for humans and other creatures. Carbon dioxide (CO2) is the largest human-made climate forcing, but other trace constituents are also important. Only intense simultaneous efforts to slow CO2 emissions and reduce non-CO2 forcings can keep climate within or near the range of the past million years. The most important of the non-CO2 forcings is methane (CH4), as it causes the second largest human-made GHG climate forcing and is the principal cause of increased tropospheric ozone (O3), which is the third largest GHG forcing. Nitrous oxide (N2O) should also be a focus of climate mitigation efforts. Black carbon (‘black soot’) has a high global warming potential (approx. 2000, 500 and 200 for 20, 100 and 500 years, respectively) and deserves greater attention. Some forcings are especially effective at high latitudes, so concerted efforts to reduce their emissions could preserve Arctic ice, while also having major benefits for human health, agricultural productivity and the global environment.

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"There's a sense that something weird is going on." Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #1
agreed! nt FirstLight Jul 2023 #2
Yes, please! Less "we don't want to offend anyone," and more "hair on fire!" GPV Jul 2023 #3
Just wait until the wingnuts switch en masse to saying Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #4
They do, indeed! GPV Jul 2023 #13
Even people I know and respect OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #15
Every once in a while, I will point a Republican "skeptic" to this page OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #16
Anyone remember The Day After Tomorrow ? LiberalArkie Jul 2023 #23
Yes. Delphinus Jul 2023 #32
They suspect but aren't sure Blues Heron Jul 2023 #5
Like I say, mealy-mouthed bullshit ... Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #6
reread this part Blues Heron Jul 2023 #8
And this is winter in the Southern Hemisphere peppertree Jul 2023 #10
exactly Blues Heron Jul 2023 #12
I understand the reticence to make proclamations without peer-review Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #28
Meh, they are scientists, and get peer reviewed BlueIn_W_Pa Jul 2023 #19
Relax! He's going for precision. orthoclad Jul 2023 #26
I'll tell ya what's weird that's going on.... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #7
they are wondering what the actual mechanism is Blues Heron Jul 2023 #11
But it's NOT strange... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #17
According to these scientists who actually study this, its surprising. Blues Heron Jul 2023 #18
If the speed of all this... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #21
No, the models are generally underestimates. orthoclad Jul 2023 #27
You feel me :) (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #29
There goes Miami peppertree Jul 2023 #9
Ocean's been rising for thousands of years BlueIn_W_Pa Jul 2023 #20
I'm pretty sure there won't be contemporary maps to compare the 2023 condition in 200 years. jaxexpat Jul 2023 #22
We should look at coastlines from 125,000 years ago, orthoclad Jul 2023 #30
I Wintered Over1970 rickford66 Jul 2023 #14
J E Hansen: Scientific reticence and sea level rise OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #24
James Hansen et al: Climate change and trace gases OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #25
NSIDC: Antarctic Sea Ice Extent OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #31
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