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orthoclad

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26. Relax! He's going for precision.

Reply to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 29, 2023, 09:20 PM

Jul 2023

Of course he could say "climate change" and leave it at that. But he's a scientist. He wants to know if a previously unknown and unpredicted factor like a "weird" current is melting the ice from below, e.g. He's using "weird" to describe those novel details that Nature excels at throwing at us.

This precision could be important if we decide to try geoengineering, which is looking more likely.

Old definition of reality: that which takes you by surprise.

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"Something Weird Is Going On": Area Of Antarctic Ocean Not Freezing In Midwinter Is Size Of Mexico [View all] hatrack Jul 2023 OP

"There's a sense that something weird is going on." Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #1

agreed! nt FirstLight Jul 2023 #2

Yes, please! Less "we don't want to offend anyone," and more "hair on fire!" GPV Jul 2023 #3

Just wait until the wingnuts switch en masse to saying Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #4

They do, indeed! GPV Jul 2023 #13

Even people I know and respect OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #15

Every once in a while, I will point a Republican "skeptic" to this page OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #16

Anyone remember The Day After Tomorrow ? LiberalArkie Jul 2023 #23

Yes. Delphinus Jul 2023 #32

They suspect but aren't sure Blues Heron Jul 2023 #5

Like I say, mealy-mouthed bullshit ... Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #6

reread this part Blues Heron Jul 2023 #8

And this is winter in the Southern Hemisphere peppertree Jul 2023 #10

exactly Blues Heron Jul 2023 #12

I understand the reticence to make proclamations without peer-review Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #28

Meh, they are scientists, and get peer reviewed BlueIn_W_Pa Jul 2023 #19

Relax! He's going for precision. orthoclad Jul 2023 #26

I'll tell ya what's weird that's going on.... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #7

they are wondering what the actual mechanism is Blues Heron Jul 2023 #11

But it's NOT strange... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #17

According to these scientists who actually study this, its surprising. Blues Heron Jul 2023 #18

If the speed of all this... Think. Again. Jul 2023 #21

No, the models are generally underestimates. orthoclad Jul 2023 #27

You feel me :) (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Jul 2023 #29

There goes Miami peppertree Jul 2023 #9

Ocean's been rising for thousands of years BlueIn_W_Pa Jul 2023 #20

I'm pretty sure there won't be contemporary maps to compare the 2023 condition in 200 years. jaxexpat Jul 2023 #22

We should look at coastlines from 125,000 years ago, orthoclad Jul 2023 #30

I Wintered Over1970 rickford66 Jul 2023 #14

J E Hansen: Scientific reticence and sea level rise OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #24

James Hansen et al: Climate change and trace gases OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #25

NSIDC: Antarctic Sea Ice Extent OKIsItJustMe Jul 2023 #31