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OKIsItJustMe

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10. As with many things, it's not quite that simple
Tue Jul 30, 2024, 04:20 PM
Jul 2024

Pedants love to point out that hydrogen is commonly produced by “reforming” methane. The picture is of a plant spewing out exhaust, while producing a token amount of hydrogen.

However, hydrogen is produced, by combining CH₄ + H₂O producing H₂ + CO₂ (which are mingled together.) To make a salable product, the H₂ must be “purified” (you don’t want to run a mixture of H₂ + CO₂ in a fuel cell.) Purifying the H₂ means separating the gases by one means or another.

https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-production-natural-gas-reforming

At this point, it’s simply a matter of not releasing the CO₂. Half a century ago, the plants that generated hydrogen for NASA sold the CO₂ for use in carbonated beverages. Today, if we were smart, we would pump it into appropriate underground formations.

https://www.carbfix.com/how-it-works

(Naturally, the oil & gas people prefer to pump it into mostly played out “fields” to produce more oil & gas.)

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This is so infuriating. They should get a similar treatment as the tobacco companies but with a much higher price to pay Dave Bowman Jul 2024 #1
A much higher price to pay indeed - they're not just killing people, Bundbuster Jul 2024 #3
I'm sorry OKIsItJustMe Jul 2024 #6
And we're driving less, and smaller cars, even silly little beep beep cars, am I right? progree Jul 2024 #7
You know, Detroit put a lot of R&D into making more efficient engines OKIsItJustMe Jul 2024 #9
And we subsidize this industry with BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars. Think. Again. Jul 2024 #2
The problem is obvious: oil companies will do anything to distract from the fact that extracting and burning Martin68 Jul 2024 #4
Don't worry. Be happy. Now they're rebranding fossil fuels as "hydrogen." NNadir Jul 2024 #5
As with many things, it's not quite that simple OKIsItJustMe Jul 2024 #10
I understand the Haber Bosch process very, very, very well and have written on it extensively and accessed... NNadir Jul 2024 #11
I hate to break it to you, but... OKIsItJustMe Jul 2024 #12
Well, since it hasn't worked, isn't working and won't work, and is, in my view, just another fossil fuel marketing... NNadir Jul 2024 #13
Without carbon sequestration there will be no history to forgive us OKIsItJustMe Jul 2024 #14
Thank you for restating your opinion. NNadir Jul 2024 #15
I cited the Scientific position of the IPCC OKIsItJustMe Jul 2024 #16
Bookmarking /nt progree Jul 2024 #17
I've been saying CC was a distraction, a hoax for years. Brenda Jul 2024 #8
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