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2. The question isn't whether people are building and operating this unsustainable junk, but rather why they are...
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 04:56 AM
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...engaged in this appalling effort to squander vast amounts land and vast material resources to do so.

It "works" when the weather allows it to do so; otherwise it is wholly and dependent on the use of fossil fuels, not just when the weather isn't allowing it to do a damned thing, but also in the manufacture and construction.

The point is - and I have never seen a defender of this crime against the future, the very name of which is dishonest, since mining the shit out of the planet is hardly a "renewable" enterprise who dissuades from this view - is that the defenders of this disaster couldn't care less about fossil fuels.

Their interest is solely and wholly on attacking the only sustainable form of energy there is, nuclear energy.

I'm an environmentalist, not a mining engineer or mining executive, nor am I a land developer, since I am a naturalist and a lover of wilderness.

All the pissing and moaning by the defenders of this ruinous industrial enterprise, as is the case with the "Beyond Nuclear" assholes described in the OP, couldn't care less that the planet is burning.

By the way, in the video provided in the OP one of the trashed turbines is burning with thick black smoke. It isn't the wind that's burning, it's petroleum products.

Of course, again, defenders of this crap, couldn't care less about fossil fuels, anymore than they give a rat's ass about mining or land use. They are driven, wholly and totally by the insipid and frankly deadly hatred of the last best hope of the human race, nuclear energy.

That is the point of the post. Environmental issues, real environmental issues, play no role in hyping solar and wind.

There is a wonderful film by the way, that people who give a crap about the future of the planet should watch, this one:

Unearth

The film is about two salmon fishermen who go underground to mining conventions to find out how to save their salmon fishery, a beautiful Alaskan wilderness area, from mining interests.

In the pristine Bristol Bay area of Alaska, two sets of siblings are alarmed when they learn of plans for the proposed Pebble Mine in the vicinity of their homes. The Salmon sisters, Native Alaskans, work on the regulatory front – pushing the federal EPA to block the project, and remaining hyper-vigilant to political pressures that could shift at any moment. The Strickland brothers, independent fishermen who know they could be just one mine accident away from losing their livelihood, probe closed-door meetings to expose the truth behind what the developer tells the public. Together, the Salmons and the Stricklands remind us never to quit until Goliath has fallen. – Jaie Laplante


The miners exposed who are advocating tearing the salmon habit to pieces cloak themselves in the popular enthusiasm for so called "renewable energy" pointing out that when they tear the shit forever out of the salmon habitat, they'll be lots of copper for building wind turbines.

That disgusts me.

The reality of this short lived disposal useless garbage is unacceptable..

I consider attacks on so called "renewable energy," a moral imperative. So called "renewable energy" isn't even remotely sustainable, but the big, big, big, big point is that it's useless. The planetary atmosphere is degrading rapidly and the wind and solar cults couldn't care less, nor is the object of their affections involved in any way in addressing this degradation.

Whining and chanting will do nothing to change these facts.

Facts matter.

Do I make my position clear?

Have a pleasant Easter weekend.

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