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In reply to the discussion: Germany's May Electricity Prices Surge to Four Times that of France. [View all]NNadir
(38,265 posts)3. I'm sure that there are people who believe that the Germans love to pay extra money to burn coal and trash...
...the environment, but I'm not among them.
I think rational people recognize that the German decision to switch from nuclear to fossil fuels was a disaster.
Certainly the German government recognizes that their decision to turn to fossil fuels with so called "renewable energy" lipstick on the coal pig was a mistake.
Chancellor Merz:
March 17, 2026
Germany's Chancellor Merz says the nuclear phaseout was a "huge mistake"
Speaking to the German Chamber of Industry and Commerce in Dessau on 15 January, Merz said: It was a serious strategic mistake to phase out nuclear energy
we simply dont have enough energy generation capacity.
According to press reports, Germanys energy system now requires state intervention to keep prices under control.
To have acceptable market prices for energy production again, we would have to permanently subsidise energy prices from the federal budget, Merz said. We cant do this in the long run.
He added that the nuclear exit has had long-term strategic consequences for the country.
According to press reports, Germanys energy system now requires state intervention to keep prices under control.
To have acceptable market prices for energy production again, we would have to permanently subsidise energy prices from the federal budget, Merz said. We cant do this in the long run.
He added that the nuclear exit has had long-term strategic consequences for the country.
Reducing Europe's nuclear energy sector was 'strategic mistake', EU chief says
When she was in the German Parliament, the "EU chief" President Ursula von der Leyen, who now confesses her "mistake" which killed people, since coal plants kill people whenever they operate normally, was one of the assholes who voted to displace nuclear with coal by claiming coal was "transitional."
The head of the International Energy Agency recognizes that the decision by coal burning hellhole, Germany, to quit nuclear power was a disaster for all humanity:
Chancellor Friedrich Merzs admission that Germanys nuclear phase-out was a serious strategic mistake has won an emphatic endorsement from Fatih Birol, executive director of the International Energy Agency. In an interview with Axel Springer Global Reporters Network, of which POLITICO is part, Birol said he was very pleased to hear Merzs words. To him, the chancellor's self-critique is a signal that German energy policy may be heading in a safer and more sensible direction.
Read the full interview below.
Chancellor Friedrich Merz recently described Germanys nuclear phase-out as a serious strategic mistake. What do you say?
Fatih Birol: I was very pleased to hear these words from the chancellor. For two reasons: First, I have been saying for years that the German nuclear phase-out was a mistake and I have had to take a lot of bruises for it. That is why it is important that the error is openly acknowledged...
Second, I now have confidence that German energy policy is moving back in a safer and more sensible direction..
Read the full interview below.
Chancellor Friedrich Merz recently described Germanys nuclear phase-out as a serious strategic mistake. What do you say?
Fatih Birol: I was very pleased to hear these words from the chancellor. For two reasons: First, I have been saying for years that the German nuclear phase-out was a mistake and I have had to take a lot of bruises for it. That is why it is important that the error is openly acknowledged...
Second, I now have confidence that German energy policy is moving back in a safer and more sensible direction..
The only positive to come out of the German nuclear phase out was to demonstrate in deadly terms in an environmental disaster that all antinukes don't give a fuck about the collapse of the planetary atmosphere and they have no problem fossil fuels.
The Germans didn't phase out fossil fuels, they embraced them. They phased out clean energy, a crime against humanity in my view.
They didn't abandon coal; they embraced it, and their fig leaf to replace coal with gas, also a fossil fuel, collapsed after the German embrace of gas that funded the attack on Ukraine by Putin was called into question. (The ex-Chancellor of Germany, Schroeder is employed and paid by Putin.)
People who are real environmentalists certainly understand what this is all about.
As for the absurd claim that Germans are happy as horseshit with this state of affairs, that they just love high prices and air pollution, it appears from recent polling that the Germans themselves want to return to nuclear energy:
German poll: Majority for return to nuclear energy
Jon Shelton with AFP, dpa
04/04/2025April 4, 2025
Some 55% of Germans favor a reversal of nuclear policy according to a marketing poll. The issue has been a point of contention between parties seeking to form a coalition government.
None of this sounds like happy horseshit to me, but I'm not here to chant nonsense and deny reality with blank assertions.
When I hear antinukes claim that Germans are fine paying the highest prices in Europe for electricity, it demonstrates for me not only do they have contempt for the environment, coupled with contempt for poor people, but it is immediately clear how weakly informed they are on the news.
They're as clueless as the Orange Pedophile who keeps claiming he won the Iran war.
It is already clear to me that antinukes know next to zero about science, particularly nuclear science, and nothing at all about environmental issues.
All antinukes, there are no exceptions in my view, here or elsewhere, are disinterested in the most serious environmental issue in our times, perhaps in human history, the collapse of the planetary atmosphere. That they cheer for the destruction of unspoiled wilderness on land and sea to build industrial parks for junk that doesn't last two or three decades, their contempt for the environment becomes even clearer. That they're fine with Germany reopening coal plants but not nuclear plants is a clear demonstration of what they're all about.
Have a nice evening.
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