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In reply to the discussion: global coal consumption has advanced by over 50% in the past decade [View all]OKIsItJustMe
(21,875 posts)38. “Germany is burning MORE coal now than before, not less.”
Youve answered the wrong question.
The question you should be answering is, How much coal would Germany be burning, if they werent using solar?
Then you might ask the question, Why are they burning more coal? Or, Are they emitting more CO[font size="1"]2[/font]?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/08/us-energy-power-co-idUSBRE8470JZ20120508
[font face=Serif][font size=5]European slump leads utilities to burn more coal[/font]
By Henning Gloystein and Jeff Coelho
LONDON | Tue May 8, 2012 8:34am EDT
[font size=4](Reuters) - Europe's economic slump is allowing utilities in some countries to burn increasing amounts of cheap, highly polluting coal for electricity generation and still meet legally binding targets to cut carbon dioxide emissions, Reuters research shows.[/font]
[font size=3]The EU's carbon scheme, its main tool to fight global warming, caps CO2 emissions on around 12,000 industrial and power plants in 30 countries and requires them to purchase permits to exceed those caps.
The supply of permits has increased, however, to the equivalent of several hundred million tons of emissions due largely to slowing industrial output. Preliminary EU data suggests emissions in the capped market fell just over 2 percent last year.
"These statistics allow us to burn as much coal as we want to without actually raising UK emissions, but in the longer-term it sends out the wrong signal and will mean rising emissions once the economy bounces back," a power trader in London said.
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By Henning Gloystein and Jeff Coelho
LONDON | Tue May 8, 2012 8:34am EDT
[font size=4](Reuters) - Europe's economic slump is allowing utilities in some countries to burn increasing amounts of cheap, highly polluting coal for electricity generation and still meet legally binding targets to cut carbon dioxide emissions, Reuters research shows.[/font]
[font size=3]The EU's carbon scheme, its main tool to fight global warming, caps CO2 emissions on around 12,000 industrial and power plants in 30 countries and requires them to purchase permits to exceed those caps.
The supply of permits has increased, however, to the equivalent of several hundred million tons of emissions due largely to slowing industrial output. Preliminary EU data suggests emissions in the capped market fell just over 2 percent last year.
"These statistics allow us to burn as much coal as we want to without actually raising UK emissions, but in the longer-term it sends out the wrong signal and will mean rising emissions once the economy bounces back," a power trader in London said.
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global coal consumption has advanced by over 50% in the past decade [View all]
phantom power
Jun 2012
OP
This is why rooftop solar in Germany doesn't mean anything in the big picture.
GliderGuider
Jun 2012
#1
Largest private generating company; 2.5% of the total generating capacity
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2012
#16
The shortage is because India isn't exploiting their own reserves to their maximum.
joshcryer
Jul 2012
#25
2150 is what Hubbert called the date for "Peak Coal" 2025 according in Energy Watch
happyslug
Jul 2012
#43
In the meantime, I'm still sitting here waiting for more than a few token rooftop solar panels...
Systematic Chaos
Jul 2012
#13
Well then we better hope the US rescinds the "punitive" tariffs against Chinese PV companies.
David__77
Jul 2012
#29
Did you know that Germany is getting rid of coal subsidies? - "Saarland coal exit"
kristopher
Jul 2012
#39
Not sure why "advanced" is being used as a synonymn for "increased" here.
eppur_se_muova
Jun 2012
#7
India is building out its coal as well. Hundreds of new plants proposed or being built.
joshcryer
Jul 2012
#35
Coal is still extremely cheap and in non-OECD states a coal plant can be built quick.
joshcryer
Jul 2012
#41