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NYC_SKP

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9. The member cannot reply to my question about energy output per unit fuel used.

Reply to XemaSab (Reply #7)

Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:07 AM

Jul 2012

What energy source provides more power per unit fuel used than solar wind or hydro?

Gets them every time. Most of the arguments around efficiencies disregard this little detail.

Indeed, I've begun to categorized energy sources into more than two groups.

If it doesn't involve fuel of any sort, it deserves it's own category (wind, solar, hydro).

OT: AB1771 what a bunch of crap, I hope it never sees the light of day but I worry.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/asm/ab_1751-1800/ab_1771_cfa_20120413_151253_asm_comm.html

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Up in smoke: how efficient is electricity produced in the UK? [View all] kristopher Jul 2012 OP

I appreciate this graph, but just to be sure, are the figures for 100% of the energy... NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #1

Not sure of your point kristopher Jul 2012 #2

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #3

What are you talking about? Solar and Wind are TOPS in energy produced per unit of fuel... NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #4

two-thirds of wind energy in a turbine's sweep area... BT021 Jul 2012 #5

Partial truths at best caraher Jul 2012 #6

So what? The efficiency of fossil fuel plants is abysmal. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #8

is all you want from coal is electricity... BT021 Jul 2012 #13

How long will oil and coal last, compared to solar and wind? NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #14

why do you refer derogatorily to "greenies"? TeamPooka Jul 2012 #19

They've been PPR'ed caraher Jul 2012 #20

awesome TeamPooka Jul 2012 #21

The sunlight and wind that are "wasted" XemaSab Jul 2012 #7

The member cannot reply to my question about energy output per unit fuel used. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #9

Boo on that XemaSab Jul 2012 #10

efficiency is unitless BT021 Jul 2012 #15

***You're still here. Good. How's that "35 cents is cheap" working for ya?*** NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #16

you are ignoring the consequences of non-availability BT021 Jul 2012 #17

Pumped hydro and other storage schemes on the horizon. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #18

And then: UK ranked most energy efficient of world's largest economies NickB79 Jul 2012 #11

Actually the UK was only first in the industrial sector. kristopher Jul 2012 #12

Kick kristopher Nov 2013 #22