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GliderGuider

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2. Yes, I agree with you on all counts. Unfortunately...
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:58 AM
Jul 2012

We won't ban new FF plants.
We won't restrict FF supply.
We won't ban the development of new extraction.
We won't put punitive carbon taxes in place.
We won't use any carbon tax money that we do collect for any good purpose.
The fossil fuel industry won't die.
This civilization won't survive.

But we will keep praying fervently (with folded invisible hands) to the Market God, and making up all kinds of excuses (like lack of faith?) when He doesn't come through as requested.

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It's time to decide how we are going to feel about all this. Miserable? Or joyful? I'm leaning towards joy, myself. My latest FB status on the subject:

I’m sure I’m not the only one who is hugely enjoying Life at the End of the World.

I can’t believe how lucky I am to be alive and awake right at this precise moment in history, standing on what feels like the pinnacle of a peak experience, with both the past and the future arrayed all around in full view. Yes, the slopes descend steeply in every direction, but imagine how boring it would be if we were still standing placidly on the savanna.

There is more juice to be sucked from this experience than we can begin to imagine. I’ve realized that I’m done with wallowing, I’m done with despair, I’m done with apologizing for feeling OK about how it’s all unfolding.

We have ended up here, right where we are. That means that all the forces of the universe – everything from the laws of physics to our own human nature – worked together to bring about this outcome. Given all that, we couldn’t have ended up anywhere else. It’s physically impossible.

So what are we to make of this, with all the resolute awareness we’ve brought to the table? Should we grieve? Should we dance? Should we throw a wake or a bon voyage party? How about all of the above? Well, I’ve done my grieving. I know Kubler-Ross by her first name, so you’ll have to excuse me if my garments stay un-rended.

I’m in the mood to celebrate. What a ride this is! What a ride it has been, and is yet to become! What a ride – I never would have dreamed such a thing was possible.

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The Paradox of Energy Efficiency [View all] GliderGuider Jul 2012 OP
Fossil fuel generated electricity won't be replaced by renewables. hunter Jul 2012 #1
Yes, I agree with you on all counts. Unfortunately... GliderGuider Jul 2012 #2
The fossil fuel industry won't die? Nederland Jul 2012 #6
Nope. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #7
Well history certainly supports you... kristopher Jul 2012 #9
Oh look - a trite, mindless cliche. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #10
GG is immune to historical evidence Nederland Jul 2012 #33
You know how we all laugh at people who say "This time it's different"? GliderGuider Jul 2012 #35
I take that to mean it will die when it runs out not so much that... joshcryer Jul 2012 #12
No Nederland Jul 2012 #32
You do me a disservice. I'm MUCH more pessimistic than that. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #34
For example, wind or solar cannot compete with inexpensive natural gas. hunter Jul 2012 #29
And that is precisely what the cited paper says. joshcryer Jul 2012 #13
Rush Limbaugh: Institute for Energy Research is "the energy equivalent of the Heritage Foundation" bananas Jul 2012 #3
Know your wingnuts: Institute for Energy Research bananas Jul 2012 #4
Who are these guys? Yet more polluter-funded front groups hit the climate scene bananas Jul 2012 #5
It's telling that none of your posts addressed the substance of the article. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #14
LOL - "lack of political purity" - it's a politically-pure right-wing front group. nt bananas Jul 2012 #18
That sounds oddly familiar. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #19
This from someone who says anything more than a couple of sentences is too long to read kristopher Jul 2012 #20
My objection is not to reading, as you know. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #21
More Bullpuckey? kristopher Jul 2012 #22
Wow. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #23
More like ... kristopher Jul 2012 #24
I find it helps to look on such interactions GliderGuider Jul 2012 #25
. XemaSab Jul 2012 #26
Actual science on display here: GliderGuider Jul 2012 #31
The efficiency is good, but of little value with increased consumerism and greed. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #8
The paper cited is correct, but they're arguing it from a poison pill POV. joshcryer Jul 2012 #11
What do you think would work to mitigate rebound? GliderGuider Jul 2012 #15
Socialism or high regulation. Rebound is a definite characteristic of capitalism. joshcryer Jul 2012 #16
Socialism and high regulation need to have this outcome as one of the goals. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #17
when all else fails invoke the USSR Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #28
Or you increase the fuel tax along with the efficiency requirements. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #27
Yes, the one mechanism that might work is a no-frills carbon tax. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #30
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