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GliderGuider

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35. You know how we all laugh at people who say "This time it's different"?

Reply to Nederland (Reply #33)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 05:34 PM

Jul 2012

Laugh away.

Oh, and do yourself a favour. Read Korowicz.

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The Paradox of Energy Efficiency [View all] GliderGuider Jul 2012 OP

Fossil fuel generated electricity won't be replaced by renewables. hunter Jul 2012 #1

Yes, I agree with you on all counts. Unfortunately... GliderGuider Jul 2012 #2

The fossil fuel industry won't die? Nederland Jul 2012 #6

Nope. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #7

Well history certainly supports you... kristopher Jul 2012 #9

Oh look - a trite, mindless cliche. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #10

GG is immune to historical evidence Nederland Jul 2012 #33

You know how we all laugh at people who say "This time it's different"? GliderGuider Jul 2012 #35

I take that to mean it will die when it runs out not so much that... joshcryer Jul 2012 #12

No Nederland Jul 2012 #32

You do me a disservice. I'm MUCH more pessimistic than that. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #34

For example, wind or solar cannot compete with inexpensive natural gas. hunter Jul 2012 #29

And that is precisely what the cited paper says. joshcryer Jul 2012 #13

Rush Limbaugh: Institute for Energy Research is "the energy equivalent of the Heritage Foundation" bananas Jul 2012 #3

Know your wingnuts: Institute for Energy Research bananas Jul 2012 #4

Who are these guys? Yet more polluter-funded front groups hit the climate scene bananas Jul 2012 #5

It's telling that none of your posts addressed the substance of the article. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #14

LOL - "lack of political purity" - it's a politically-pure right-wing front group. nt bananas Jul 2012 #18

That sounds oddly familiar. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #19

This from someone who says anything more than a couple of sentences is too long to read kristopher Jul 2012 #20

My objection is not to reading, as you know. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #21

More Bullpuckey? kristopher Jul 2012 #22

Wow. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #23

More like ... kristopher Jul 2012 #24

I find it helps to look on such interactions GliderGuider Jul 2012 #25

. XemaSab Jul 2012 #26

Actual science on display here: GliderGuider Jul 2012 #31

The efficiency is good, but of little value with increased consumerism and greed. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #8

The paper cited is correct, but they're arguing it from a poison pill POV. joshcryer Jul 2012 #11

What do you think would work to mitigate rebound? GliderGuider Jul 2012 #15

Socialism or high regulation. Rebound is a definite characteristic of capitalism. joshcryer Jul 2012 #16

Socialism and high regulation need to have this outcome as one of the goals. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #17

when all else fails invoke the USSR Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #28

Or you increase the fuel tax along with the efficiency requirements. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #27

Yes, the one mechanism that might work is a no-frills carbon tax. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #30