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In reply to the discussion: Time to go on the record [View all]Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)11. "Ice gone" is hard to define exactly
Right now ships can sail within a few hundred miles of the north pole and encounter only bits and pieces of ice floating in the sea. (See this post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/112723761 and the linked article to see what I'm talking about.)
So the satellites might show solid ice where the ships at the surface show mostly open water with lots of broken bits and pieces of ice. That being the case, the satellite data might be optimistic. I would venture to say that by summer of 2014 ships will be able to cross the Arctic Ocean in any direction and encounter no significant solid ice to slow them down, just floating bits and pieces. This is regardless of what the satellite data says.
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I'm guessing you've set out your balloon project somewhere on DU already
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2012
#12
Sometimes, private efforts really can be as good, and even better than the government's.......nt
AverageJoe90
Sep 2012
#68
I've a couple of questions that keep rattling around in my poor addled head...
a geek named Bob
Sep 2012
#72
Re: "My position is that we would probably be better off in the long run if everyone took a break"..
AverageJoe90
Sep 2012
#73
An opportunity to become sustainable for the first time in our species' history.
GliderGuider
Sep 2012
#64
The system you describe does not exist. If it did you could colonize the galaxy.
joshcryer
Sep 2012
#75
My prediction for an ice-free Arctic year-round? 2040, maybe 2060 if we're lucky.
AverageJoe90
Sep 2012
#25