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tama

(9,137 posts)
15. OK
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 07:25 PM
Oct 2012

The drop in Cuban energy consumption does not seem so different from what e.g. Italy is now going through. But there has been no increase in infant mortality in Cuba, on the contrary it's been dropping. There has been no increase of overall mortality, on the contrary "Manuel Franco describes the Special Period as "the first, and probably the only, natural experiment, born of unfortunate circumstances, where large effects on diabetes, cardiovascular disease and all-cause mortality have been related to sustained population-wide weight loss as a result of increased physical activity and reduced caloric intake"."

Infant mortality dropping:
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=cu&v=29
Birth rate dropping:
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=cu&v=25
Life expectancy growing:
http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=cu&v=30

Energy consumption per capita has been dropping, now less than world averadge and fraction compared to North America:
http://www.google.fi/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=eg_use_pcap_kg_oe&idim=country:CUB&dl=en&hl=en&q=cuba+energy+consumption#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=eg_use_pcap_kg_oe&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:CUB&idim=region:NAC&ifdim=region&tdim=true&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false

Cuba has a problem of aging population much like Europe, but the traditional family values and socialist community values of health care system seem to be doing better job of taking care of elderly than in many European nations where elderly are institutionlized and medicated into zombies by more and more technocratic and privatized "health care".

What is most noteworthy of all the graphs is that Cuba keeps on doing quite well with very low energy consumption per capita. Areas that are debt slaves to IMF and neoliberalism have practically no chance of following Cuban example of low energy well-fare without revolutions to gain freedom from neoliberal models of oppression, as we see in Greece where IMF is "predicting a 5-10% decrease in Greek life expectancy due to the debt crisis and austerity cuts." (http://stuartbramhall.aegauthorblogs.com/tag/greek-debt/)

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Wrong on every level. lalalu Oct 2012 #1
Thanks for your input. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #2
Chernobyl Might Have Had a Significant Impact on Those Figures AndyTiedye Oct 2012 #3
If you can find some evidence I'd love to see it. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #5
I am not sure about your point and lalalu Oct 2012 #4
It would be quite a stretch to extend your idea not only to cprise Oct 2012 #10
Different regions have different demographic influences. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #11
+100 mjrr_595 Oct 2012 #18
Thank You lalalu Oct 2012 #19
Sounds like "The Underminers" may be on the right track. Speck Tater Oct 2012 #6
Thanks, I hadn't run across it before. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #8
"various saturation effects (as seen in Western Europe and Japan)" deserves more examination muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #7
The sorts of saturation effects I'm thinking about GliderGuider Oct 2012 #9
Consumption of refined oil products in Italy fell 14.8 percent year-on-year tama Oct 2012 #12
Three main factors tama Oct 2012 #13
Yes. As economic collapse progresses I think we'll see GliderGuider Oct 2012 #14
OK tama Oct 2012 #15
Energy is just one factor, of course. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #16
Russia is interesting tama Oct 2012 #17
I finally got around to reading Orlov on Kropotkin and anarchism - fabulous series. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #23
Yi Quan tama Nov 2012 #24
Gapminder Iterate Oct 2012 #20
This is fascinating PATRICK Oct 2012 #21
Thanks! I think this is a good way of looking at the situation GliderGuider Oct 2012 #22
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