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Environment & Energy

GliderGuider

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22. Thanks! I think this is a good way of looking at the situation

Reply to PATRICK (Reply #21)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 01:01 PM

Oct 2012

For me the question is whether we can liberate any of the capabilities that are locked away and redirect them for survival purposes, or whether we have to wait for things to crack first. For the last half-dozen years my take on it has been that the catastrophe will roll over us well before the power structure changes.

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Population, economic growth and ecological damage - a peek under the hood [View all] GliderGuider Oct 2012 OP

Wrong on every level. lalalu Oct 2012 #1

Thanks for your input. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #2

Chernobyl Might Have Had a Significant Impact on Those Figures AndyTiedye Oct 2012 #3

If you can find some evidence I'd love to see it. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #5

I am not sure about your point and lalalu Oct 2012 #4

It would be quite a stretch to extend your idea not only to cprise Oct 2012 #10

Different regions have different demographic influences. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #11

+100 mjrr_595 Oct 2012 #18

Thank You lalalu Oct 2012 #19

Sounds like "The Underminers" may be on the right track. Speck Tater Oct 2012 #6

Thanks, I hadn't run across it before. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #8

"various saturation effects (as seen in Western Europe and Japan)" deserves more examination muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #7

The sorts of saturation effects I'm thinking about GliderGuider Oct 2012 #9

Consumption of refined oil products in Italy fell 14.8 percent year-on-year tama Oct 2012 #12

Three main factors tama Oct 2012 #13

Yes. As economic collapse progresses I think we'll see GliderGuider Oct 2012 #14

OK tama Oct 2012 #15

Energy is just one factor, of course. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #16

Russia is interesting tama Oct 2012 #17

I finally got around to reading Orlov on Kropotkin and anarchism - fabulous series. GliderGuider Oct 2012 #23

Yi Quan tama Nov 2012 #24

Gapminder Iterate Oct 2012 #20

This is fascinating PATRICK Oct 2012 #21

Thanks! I think this is a good way of looking at the situation GliderGuider Oct 2012 #22