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In reply to the discussion: Tyndall Center Director Anderson: Rapid Emissions Reduction Hard: 4-6C Far, Far Worse [View all]AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)48. Of course, it IS more complex than that, BUT........
"and yet they cannot even organize a slight reduction in green house gases after decades of working on it at the pinnacle of their development."
Unfortunately, we can thank decades of corruption, and Big Energy agitprop, amongst other things.
"That is the 20th Century mentally peaking through. Its dinosaur thinking. What enemies? Billions of lives hang in the balance facing very probable famine, and you want to motivate us with war talk? "Enemies" are a very tough sell when civilization is destroying the planet."
Of course, it's true that our problems are significantly more complex than just black-and-white. Of course, I haven't ever denied this. But we do face the obstruction of those who wish to impede progress, such as the Koch Bros., and those who aid them like the Watts Up With That guy, "Lord" Monckton, Christopher "We can't act on global warming because it'd kill the economy!" Booker, etc. Remove that obstacle, and it'll make our problems at least somewhat less difficult. And there are many good people working to make our hopes reality as much as possible; just look at our very own A Geek Named Bob, who's devoted much of his spare time to helping mitigate the problem, for example.
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Tyndall Center Director Anderson: Rapid Emissions Reduction Hard: 4-6C Far, Far Worse [View all]
hatrack
Nov 2012
OP
It doesn't really work like that. The 1% hoards and MORE energy gets used.
AverageJoe90
Nov 2012
#17
Maybe. I just don't have the faith that it'll necessarily be true, though.
AverageJoe90
Nov 2012
#50
Consuming less has been a substantial factor in emission reductions during the recession
NoOneMan
Nov 2012
#9
That assumes that humans will always exploit all available energy and negate surplus
NoOneMan
Nov 2012
#24
Wealth is a cultural construct and quite alien to many pre-agricultural societies
NoOneMan
Nov 2012
#23
You have so much faith in the ability of humans to rebuild after complete collapse
NoOneMan
Nov 2012
#45
Cheat Sheet Answers: Number one is an outright liar and Number Two isn't even short-sighted. =)
AverageJoe90
Nov 2012
#51
Increased efficiency means more available energy, meaning cheaper energy, resulting in more growth
NoOneMan
Nov 2012
#53