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FBaggins

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81. The science is not, in fact, "clear as mud"

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:23 PM

Nov 2012

You're just exceptionally blind. Even when things have been simplified dramatically.

Why have they evacuated the people from their ancestral lands from around Chernobyl and Fukushima?

Allow me to simplify the answer for you again.

It isn't because if people went there they would die. Do you admit that you think that is the reason?

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Gundersen: 26 nuclear plants in area where Hurricane Sandy likely to hit � [View all] Kolesar Oct 2012 OP

Why does this feel like deja vu? dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #1

The denial in the rest of the thread is like deja vu, too. bananas Oct 2012 #17

Lol! That's a laugher all right. FBaggins Oct 2012 #18

The deja vu is uncanny - even the attacks on nuclear engineers who speak out bananas Oct 2012 #20

You didn't actually read that thread, did you? FBaggins Oct 2012 #21

How about today? Does it feel like deja vu now? AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #32

*chirp* *chirp* caraher Nov 2012 #33

What an irresponsible nutcase FBaggins Oct 2012 #2

You realize debunking Anti-Nuke Jesus and his Industry of Fear wtmusic Oct 2012 #4

"What an irresponsible nutcase", "a reactor that poses no actual risk" bananas Oct 2012 #6

If killer bees were the news topic of the day... FBaggins Oct 2012 #8

More people were killed by Killer Bees this week than by any nuclear plant dbackjon Nov 2012 #37

Oh yeah, dback? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #41

Trying to prove a negative, is well, stupid dbackjon Nov 2012 #45

No, what is stupid is.... RobertEarl Nov 2012 #46

How many people were killed by falling trees in the last week? XemaSab Nov 2012 #47

Not you too RobertEarl Nov 2012 #48

Yes, me too. XemaSab Nov 2012 #49

I am merely asking you to prove your accusation. dbackjon Nov 2012 #54

Sigh - nuke education? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #55

What percentage of plutonium in the environment came from nuclear reactors? FBaggins Nov 2012 #56

Who does know? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #57

Who knows? YOU should. FBaggins Nov 2012 #58

My God RobertEarl Nov 2012 #59

Still badly wrong. FBaggins Nov 2012 #60

Answer the question RobertEarl Nov 2012 #61

Long since answered multiple times. FBaggins Nov 2012 #62

Truth is this RobertEarl Nov 2012 #63

I can't believe that you're that incapable of distinguishing within a range. FBaggins Nov 2012 #76

Heh RobertEarl Nov 2012 #77

There isn't one person here arguing that radiation is safe XemaSab Nov 2012 #64

Nuclear Radiation kills RobertEarl Nov 2012 #65

No, sorry, no difference XemaSab Nov 2012 #66

Heh RobertEarl Nov 2012 #67

What's that supposed to mean? XemaSab Nov 2012 #68

That's totally unfair. LeftyMom Nov 2012 #69

Wonder Twins activate! XemaSab Nov 2012 #70

Pistachio! GliderGuider Nov 2012 #71

And their sidekick, Secret Aardvark! LeftyMom Nov 2012 #72

Am I the "other poster?" caraher Nov 2012 #73

In the sense of "One, Two, Many" then you probably are. Nihil Nov 2012 #74

We've done this before RobertEarl Nov 2012 #75

Here's the SCIENCE PamW Nov 2012 #78

Thanks Pam RobertEarl Nov 2012 #80

The science is not, in fact, "clear as mud" FBaggins Nov 2012 #81

So RobertEarl Nov 2012 #82

Really??? PamW Nov 2012 #83

You didn't!? Yes, you did, PamW RobertEarl Nov 2012 #85

The main point went right over your head!!! PamW Nov 2012 #86

Denver has 3 times the Level as Fukushima? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #87

It's all there for you to READ!!! PamW Nov 2012 #88

You are partly right RobertEarl Nov 2012 #89

NO - I'm 100% CORRECT!! PamW Nov 2012 #90

I am flattered RobertEarl Nov 2012 #91

You shouldn't be. PamW Nov 2012 #92

From the past... PamW Nov 2012 #93

3 million people were killed this week by elves with light sabers backwoodsbob Nov 2012 #94

Good explanation! PamW Oct 2012 #10

And Oyster Creek has AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #12

AMEN!! PamW Oct 2012 #31

He was on Democracy Now yesterday, too bananas Oct 2012 #3

Bull FBaggins Oct 2012 #5

Gunderson is so full of shit it would be funny, if he wasn't terrifying people AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #13

It sucks to have to worry with the way the nuclear industry runs their plants madokie Oct 2012 #7

They should've shut them down before the storm arrived. bananas Oct 2012 #9

DHOOM! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #14

Get real. bananas Oct 2012 #22

Sure, nobody needs electricity right now. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #23

With transmission lines down and circuits shut off, they can't get it anyway. bananas Oct 2012 #25

So if anyone goes without power... they all should? FBaggins Oct 2012 #26

And when those measures occurred, the generating sources are taken offline. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #30

Gundersen has gone of the deep end. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #11

No, he hasn't. nt bananas Oct 2012 #15

You're right... that wasn't fair. FBaggins Oct 2012 #16

And when nothing happens and he's proven horribly wrong (again) NickB79 Oct 2012 #19

And an explanation for how close to disaster we really came. FBaggins Oct 2012 #24

And there it is! FBaggins Oct 2012 #27

Except we knew the storm was approaching a week in advance NickB79 Oct 2012 #28

Not exactly FBaggins Oct 2012 #29

And unlike many here presume, we have not been sitting on our hands since Fukushima Throckmorton Nov 2012 #34

Gee, who do we know has lied? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #38

So lies are ok when they support your viewpoint? Throckmorton Nov 2012 #39

What a crock RobertEarl Nov 2012 #40

Psychics also profit handsomely from telling the "truth" wtmusic Nov 2012 #43

Is this where you are coming from? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #44

Face it though Nick, you have to admire him ... Nihil Nov 2012 #35

His ability to miss the target is impressive, I will admit NickB79 Nov 2012 #36

What an awful thing to say RobertEarl Nov 2012 #50

More likely... PamW Nov 2012 #84

I wonder how he feels about the possibility that teh nucular will turn the Earth into Venus? GliderGuider Nov 2012 #42

Gundersen is WRONG, as always. PamW Nov 2012 #51

Hydro is gonna save us? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #52

Most ideas involving massive wind buildout also involve massive hydro buildout XemaSab Nov 2012 #53

WRONG!!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!! PamW Nov 2012 #79