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GliderGuider

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8. From Kevin Anderson, DD of the Tyndall Center:
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 07:56 AM
Nov 2012
http://www.bristol.ac.uk/cabot/documents/anderson-ppt.pdf
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/media/2012/11//502497.mp3

It's more than passing strange how much honest science resembles the views of us doomers.

From the PDF, regarding the delusional nature of most of the current authoritative projections about carbon:
...with few exceptions, these include:

Recent historical emissions sometimes ‘mistaken’ or ‘massaged’
 Short-term emission growth seriously down played
 Peak year choice ‘Machiavellian’ & dangerously misleading
 Reduction rate universally dictated by economists
 Geoengineering widespread in low carbon scenarios
 Annex 1/non-Annex 1 emissions split neglected or hidden
 Assumptions about ‘Big’ technology naively optimistic
 (‘Net’ Costs meaningless with non-marginal mitigation & adaptation)

Collectively – they have a magician’s view of time & a linear view of problems ?


Again from Anderson's talk:
For 4°C global mean surface temperature
5°C - 6°C global land mean
… & increase °C on the hottest days of:
6°C - 8°C in China
8°C - 10°C in Central Europe
10°C -12°C in New York

In low latitudes 4°C gives
up to 40% reduction in maize & rice
as population heads towards 9 billion by 2050

And this is from Fatih Birol (chief economist of the IEA):

“When I look at this data, the trend is perfectly in line with a temperature increase of 6 degrees Celsius, which would have devastating consequences for the planet.”

Read the Powerpoint, listen to the mp3, and then tell me we're going to make it...

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Daily LOW temps higher by 7 to 14 degrees every day this year. ffr Nov 2012 #1
It is a rather strange coincidence, TBH. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #3
What were the low temps where you live? ffr Nov 2012 #4
Climate is weather over time. joshcryer Nov 2012 #6
Yeah, but this is the only year that low temps have been this above average this long. n/t AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #22
No one born in the past 27 years has experienced a month without record high temps. joshcryer Nov 2012 #23
Now that's an interesting way of putting it hatrack Nov 2012 #24
Yeah, but what does that have to do with my prior statement? AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #25
Um, it directly contridicts "this is the only year." joshcryer Nov 2012 #27
But not 7, 8, 9, 10 degrees, not for several months at a time. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #28
As an addendum: AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #5
Erm, La Nina ended in June of 2011. El Nino hasn't ramped up yet. joshcryer Nov 2012 #7
We had ripe tomatoes on the vine until November 10th (Kansas City) hatrack Nov 2012 #11
Thanks for doing your part China NoOneMan Nov 2012 #2
It's imperative to get those west coast coal ports up and running pscot Nov 2012 #9
From Kevin Anderson, DD of the Tyndall Center: GliderGuider Nov 2012 #8
Ouch. (n/t) Nihil Nov 2012 #10
The top link the power point presentation, ... CRH Nov 2012 #12
The PPT accompanies the lecture. joshcryer Nov 2012 #20
And people think I'm silly for being an alarmist. joshcryer Nov 2012 #19
something about this doesn't feel like winning the future phantom power Nov 2012 #13
Here's how far behind the 8-ball we are: GliderGuider Nov 2012 #14
Tool Monkeys! Fuck Yeah!!!!! hatrack Nov 2012 #15
Derp! GliderGuider Nov 2012 #17
An interesting read, ... CRH Nov 2012 #16
I think gavin may be Gavin Schmidt, one of the lead contributors GliderGuider Nov 2012 #18
Thanks I was in the process of running an audit trail, ... CRH Nov 2012 #21
My opinion Livluvgrow Nov 2012 #26
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