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AverageJoe90

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7. LOL......seriously, though, I got a better metaphor.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:42 PM
Nov 2012

In all honesty, though, this whole Titanic thing is kind of apples-and-oranges.

Here's a more apt(though not perfect) comparison: In Miami one autumn, people are awaiting the news concerning a Category 4 hurricane off the coast of Hispaniola, as to whether or not it will hit South Florida in the next 48 hours, and if so, how hard. A small group of people are going around carrying signs saying, "The End is Near", "Miami will perish", etc., and are proclaiming doom-and-gloom; 220 mph winds, all of South Florida destroyed, tens of thousands dead, etc., while another significantly larger group of people on the opposite is calling it a bunch of hype and saying there's nothing to worry about, etc.. The National Weather Service, meanwhile, is warning people that while a direct hit to Miami is not likely based on their forecasts, it is still possible, and people should try to prepare for the worst. Most people heed the warnings as usual, although with varying speed and caution, but some, however, don't. Two days later, the hurricane makes its landfall about 25 miles due north of Miami, as a low-end Category 5. Though the damage does unfortunately exceed all of the most optimistic estimates, it's also not quite as severe as the most pessimistic estimates as well. Unfortunately, a somewhat larger than usual number of people blew off preparations assisted by the blowhardiness of the aforementioned pair of groups of cranks; the first meant no harm, but the other group was really just looking to stir up trouble, with the latter group bearing the vast majority of the brunt of responsibility. 450 people are killed by this storm in Florida; had it not been for the scaredy-cats and troublemakers(especially the latter group!), it would have been around 350 or so.

This hypothetical scenario isn't particularly based on any real life event, but serves as a metaphor for what we are faced with in respect to climate change.
The cranks I mentioned? Notice how I always mentioned these two groups in order, the ones who were genuinely deeply frightened by the prospect of the disaster but who went a little too far with the doom-and-gloom(and who unintentionally complicated the situation) coming first, and those who honestly didn't give a shit about the safety and well-being of others, and only that they get their 15 minutes of fame(and who bore the great majority of the responsibility for the exacerbation of the death toll), second.

These people were a stand-in for the most extreme of the climate "doomers&quot McPherson, Light, etc.), and the climate change deniers(Monckton, Christy, Booker, et al.), respectively.

And the NWS, of course, served as a stand in, for people such as Peter Sinclair, David Titley, Katherine Hayhoe, the Skeptical Science guys, and others like them.

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Kinda sucks but it could have been worse. n/t AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab Nov 2012 #3
I don't get what you're trying to say here. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #5
Rio+20 was the last big shot at anything. It's over. joshcryer Nov 2012 #2
Oh, just stop, please. This isn't helping things. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #4
Could you imagine this guy on the deck of the titanic NoOneMan Nov 2012 #6
LOL......seriously, though, I got a better metaphor. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #7
That's a really shitty analogy XemaSab Nov 2012 #9
I wouldn't have called the NWS alarmist, though. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #12
'tis but a scratch! I could plug the hole with my pinky finger! joshcryer Nov 2012 #11
Handwringing? How about facts? joshcryer Nov 2012 #10
Yes, but this is actually the science. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #13
Oh, OK, so you have anything to say about the OP? joshcryer Nov 2012 #15
We never actually had a shot - not as far back as Kyoto. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #8
True enough. But since then Latin America shifted far to the left. joshcryer Nov 2012 #14
Why should some third world country XemaSab Nov 2012 #16
You do have a good point here, XemaSab. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #17
As Kevin Anderson says "Climate Change is an Annex 1 problem." GliderGuider Nov 2012 #18
Mexico and the UK are the only two countries with committed emissions goals. joshcryer Nov 2012 #19
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