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XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
9. That's a really shitty analogy
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:39 AM
Nov 2012

Here's what the NWS said about Katrina:

URGENT — WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28, 2005

...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...

.HURRICANE KATRINA...A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED
STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A
FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES
AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE
KILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.

ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE
OUTSIDE!


In many cases, it's the NWS who are the alarmists.

Also, we've seen devastating hurricanes before in our history. We've seen major cities undergo total, utter devastation. We've never seen a climate shift before. All we have to go on are suppositions about what the aftermath of the Toba supervolcano was like. We don't know how people got through it.

If there's a 5% chance that we're looking at the destruction of the biosphere, then we should act as though that's a possible outcome and we shouldn't totally ignore it.

You're up here pushing for a business as usual approach, and that's not going to cut it.

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Kinda sucks but it could have been worse. n/t AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab Nov 2012 #3
I don't get what you're trying to say here. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #5
Rio+20 was the last big shot at anything. It's over. joshcryer Nov 2012 #2
Oh, just stop, please. This isn't helping things. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #4
Could you imagine this guy on the deck of the titanic NoOneMan Nov 2012 #6
LOL......seriously, though, I got a better metaphor. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #7
That's a really shitty analogy XemaSab Nov 2012 #9
I wouldn't have called the NWS alarmist, though. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #12
'tis but a scratch! I could plug the hole with my pinky finger! joshcryer Nov 2012 #11
Handwringing? How about facts? joshcryer Nov 2012 #10
Yes, but this is actually the science. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #13
Oh, OK, so you have anything to say about the OP? joshcryer Nov 2012 #15
We never actually had a shot - not as far back as Kyoto. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #8
True enough. But since then Latin America shifted far to the left. joshcryer Nov 2012 #14
Why should some third world country XemaSab Nov 2012 #16
You do have a good point here, XemaSab. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #17
As Kevin Anderson says "Climate Change is an Annex 1 problem." GliderGuider Nov 2012 #18
Mexico and the UK are the only two countries with committed emissions goals. joshcryer Nov 2012 #19
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