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XemaSab

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16. Why should some third world country
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:18 AM
Nov 2012

where there's no manufacturing and 90% of the citizens don't own a car be the space monkey for the planet?

The US spits out 5,425 million tons of CO2 per year. If Mexico (which is one of the more prosperous Latin countries and does have a manufacturing base) cut their emissions by 50%, they would save 222 million tons of CO2 per year, or 4% of what the US spits out every year. It would also create even worse poverty than already exists there, driving millions of people out of work and probably creating a famine right on our southern border.

Meanwhile, we could cut our emissions by 4% by inflating our tires, caulking our windows, and convincing people in LA to give up their lawns.

It's like saying that we can balance the budget by taxing the poor while the rich get to keep their loopholes. It's fundamentally unfair.

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Kinda sucks but it could have been worse. n/t AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab Nov 2012 #3
I don't get what you're trying to say here. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #5
Rio+20 was the last big shot at anything. It's over. joshcryer Nov 2012 #2
Oh, just stop, please. This isn't helping things. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #4
Could you imagine this guy on the deck of the titanic NoOneMan Nov 2012 #6
LOL......seriously, though, I got a better metaphor. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #7
That's a really shitty analogy XemaSab Nov 2012 #9
I wouldn't have called the NWS alarmist, though. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #12
'tis but a scratch! I could plug the hole with my pinky finger! joshcryer Nov 2012 #11
Handwringing? How about facts? joshcryer Nov 2012 #10
Yes, but this is actually the science. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #13
Oh, OK, so you have anything to say about the OP? joshcryer Nov 2012 #15
We never actually had a shot - not as far back as Kyoto. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #8
True enough. But since then Latin America shifted far to the left. joshcryer Nov 2012 #14
Why should some third world country XemaSab Nov 2012 #16
You do have a good point here, XemaSab. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #17
As Kevin Anderson says "Climate Change is an Annex 1 problem." GliderGuider Nov 2012 #18
Mexico and the UK are the only two countries with committed emissions goals. joshcryer Nov 2012 #19
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