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joshcryer

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19. Mexico and the UK are the only two countries with committed emissions goals.

Reply to XemaSab (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:40 AM

Nov 2012

I'm not saying that they should have to do anything. I'm simply saying the politics of Latin America after being the guinea pig for fascist corporate dictatorships should, idealistically, want to basically do the opposite.

The fact that they're on board with us basically means as a corporate oligarchy, we won. We're happy to export our coal to them.

Renewables for the developed world are about long term energy sustainability. It has nothing to do with the environment.

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Musn't Rush Things! Brazil Urges Delay In Any Binding Climate Talks Until 2013 - SMH [View all] hatrack Nov 2012 OP

Kinda sucks but it could have been worse. n/t AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab Nov 2012 #3

I don't get what you're trying to say here. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #5

Rio+20 was the last big shot at anything. It's over. joshcryer Nov 2012 #2

Oh, just stop, please. This isn't helping things. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #4

Could you imagine this guy on the deck of the titanic NoOneMan Nov 2012 #6

LOL......seriously, though, I got a better metaphor. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #7

That's a really shitty analogy XemaSab Nov 2012 #9

I wouldn't have called the NWS alarmist, though. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #12

'tis but a scratch! I could plug the hole with my pinky finger! joshcryer Nov 2012 #11

Handwringing? How about facts? joshcryer Nov 2012 #10

Yes, but this is actually the science. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #13

Oh, OK, so you have anything to say about the OP? joshcryer Nov 2012 #15

We never actually had a shot - not as far back as Kyoto. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #8

True enough. But since then Latin America shifted far to the left. joshcryer Nov 2012 #14

Why should some third world country XemaSab Nov 2012 #16

You do have a good point here, XemaSab. AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #17

As Kevin Anderson says "Climate Change is an Annex 1 problem." GliderGuider Nov 2012 #18

Mexico and the UK are the only two countries with committed emissions goals. joshcryer Nov 2012 #19