Actual Carbon Emissions vs. IPCC Scenarios - how far away is safety?

[AverageJoe90]

41. Sure, sure.

And Joe Biden is the Easter Bunny......

I don't have to sign up with your exceptionalist denialism in order to have hope.

What denialism? Have you actually seen what real ACC deniers say? They don't acknowledge ANY of the science concerning global warming.

I, however, acknowledge that:

1.)The planet is warming, and that human activities are almost certainly the primary factor.

2.)There are many risks associated with said warming.

3.)That action should be taken to mitigate the problem.

4.)If we do nothing, the risk severely crippling the environment, civilization, and all life on Earth is much greater than with action.

Denialist? Not in the least.

But don't think that people won't notice; You are at odds with many here in pushing your idea of what is politically acceptable like some 1950s consensus of nuclear war.

That is simply untrue.

and the projected warming will be too quick for us to physiologically adapt-- those are facts.

No, it's conjecture and nothing more. You seem to assume that humans are just like any other creature on Earth. But you'd be wrong.

With so much other life perishing from under us, we would have to acknowledge the possibility of our own demise. We are not so different from other animals that we can count on escaping all of the unintended consequences where they do not.

We can certainly escape extinction. Now, I don't know about surviving in today's numbers; I would imagine that it's possible that climate change, and all of it's direct & indirect effects, as well as wars, disease, etc. could perhaps lead, or at least contribute, to a significant culling of the population(I doubt that CC alone wouldn't be enough to cause multi-billion death tolls on its own but wars, civil strife, and epidemics, etc. over time, could in fact, make up for that).

We, at least, have the capability to survive, when many other creatures might not. I believe it's called "Survival of the Fittest".

As such, the Precautionary Principle places the burden of proof with those who insist on ruling out human extinction.

The end of post-WWII civilization as we've come to know it? Yes. The possibility that climate change alone could create hundreds of millions of refugees? Yes. Human extinction? No. Human extinction just isn't possible thru CC alone.