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NoOneMan

(4,795 posts)
5. We may have a social collapse before 2050
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 02:39 PM
Nov 2012

In terms of disasters, we haven't seen "bad" yet (especially as far as a drought is concerned). If this continues and our crop yields make China's 3 Years of Famine look like a Ramadan fasting, the elites will be scrambling to maintain order among a hungry population while building levies and dykes. There will be no energy left for economic growth, further exacerbating the social problems. In a few decades, we may be doubling our energy expenditure to simply keep peasants down, the water back, and most bellys full. And at some point, it will simply not be economically feasible to keep on keeping on. Cities and infrastructure companies will start going bankrupt. Services will break down. The will to fix these issues, and the energy to do it, will be sapped from the people who are swimming in their own existential crises, as they see the futility in the underpinnings of civilizations.

This is probably the most preferable scenario we could envision.

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On the eating of crow... [View all] GliderGuider Nov 2012 OP
The IPCC seems to have hunkered down, ... CRH Nov 2012 #1
I personally think we'll see a shift from the +3 curve to the +4.5 curve GliderGuider Nov 2012 #2
Have a question for you on sensitivity, ... CRH Nov 2012 #3
It's probably a bit of both. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #4
I suspect hunter-gatherers are more resiliant than you give them credit for NickB79 Nov 2012 #11
We may have a social collapse before 2050 NoOneMan Nov 2012 #5
I think it's virtually guaranteed. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #6
I think the decade around 2050 is when the wheels will fall off GliderGuider Nov 2012 #7
Its all about food. Its about how humans get their energy NoOneMan Nov 2012 #8
Spot on GG. n/t. CRH Nov 2012 #10
yeah , that is kinda what we be seein' for a while. ... CRH Nov 2012 #9
Who are "we"? wtmusic Nov 2012 #15
I meant we as in first world nations NoOneMan Nov 2012 #16
Regarding climate sensitivity... GliderGuider Nov 2012 #12
I don't think climate sensitivity is 3.0C. joshcryer Nov 2012 #22
It's time for me to walk back some of my alarmism GliderGuider Nov 2012 #13
There have been "doomers" for millenia NoOneMan Nov 2012 #17
It's a tightrope, all right. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #20
Pfft, I'm the alarmist here, you're the doomer. joshcryer Nov 2012 #23
Hmmm. You have a point there. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #24
Sit back and watch the world burn. joshcryer Nov 2012 #25
Kick to make sure people see my error and apology nt GliderGuider Nov 2012 #14
Emily Litella would be pscot Nov 2012 #18
;-) GliderGuider Nov 2012 #21
I thought that didn't sound right! Odin2005 Nov 2012 #19
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