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GliderGuider

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7. I think the decade around 2050 is when the wheels will fall off
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 04:28 PM
Nov 2012

CO2 will be at 550, the temperature will be closing in on +2.5C. All the dangers we were warned about for the end of the century will have arrived 50 years early. We won't be able to mitigate fossil fuel consumption to any appreciable degree before then, because people in general won't believe the problem is really this bad until after 2030. By that time we'll be even more locked into the pattern than we are today.

It's not about how hot it will be by the end of the century, it's about how hot it will be in less than 40 years.

I think the graph in the OP actually tells us when the end of civilization will happen. Not extinction - that will come some unknowable time later - but all the things that make civilization what it is will end. This realization is where the whole exercise of the last few days/weeks/years has been leading me.

"Be careful what questions you ask. You might not want to know the answers."

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On the eating of crow... [View all] GliderGuider Nov 2012 OP
The IPCC seems to have hunkered down, ... CRH Nov 2012 #1
I personally think we'll see a shift from the +3 curve to the +4.5 curve GliderGuider Nov 2012 #2
Have a question for you on sensitivity, ... CRH Nov 2012 #3
It's probably a bit of both. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #4
I suspect hunter-gatherers are more resiliant than you give them credit for NickB79 Nov 2012 #11
We may have a social collapse before 2050 NoOneMan Nov 2012 #5
I think it's virtually guaranteed. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #6
I think the decade around 2050 is when the wheels will fall off GliderGuider Nov 2012 #7
Its all about food. Its about how humans get their energy NoOneMan Nov 2012 #8
Spot on GG. n/t. CRH Nov 2012 #10
yeah , that is kinda what we be seein' for a while. ... CRH Nov 2012 #9
Who are "we"? wtmusic Nov 2012 #15
I meant we as in first world nations NoOneMan Nov 2012 #16
Regarding climate sensitivity... GliderGuider Nov 2012 #12
I don't think climate sensitivity is 3.0C. joshcryer Nov 2012 #22
It's time for me to walk back some of my alarmism GliderGuider Nov 2012 #13
There have been "doomers" for millenia NoOneMan Nov 2012 #17
It's a tightrope, all right. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #20
Pfft, I'm the alarmist here, you're the doomer. joshcryer Nov 2012 #23
Hmmm. You have a point there. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #24
Sit back and watch the world burn. joshcryer Nov 2012 #25
Kick to make sure people see my error and apology nt GliderGuider Nov 2012 #14
Emily Litella would be pscot Nov 2012 #18
;-) GliderGuider Nov 2012 #21
I thought that didn't sound right! Odin2005 Nov 2012 #19
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