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joshcryer

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22. I don't think climate sensitivity is 3.0C.

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 07:07 PM

Nov 2012

When I saw you state that 5.0C is still possible I questioned what number you used for climate sensitivity. As we have a good idea that clouds are not going to be a negative feedback, it stands to reason that climate sensitivity is probably closer to 4.0C or maybe higher.

I like your approach. Something the CO2 balance is that people don't understand that we have clathrates and permafrost that are on the precipice. If they go all bets are off. The tipping point is reached. It doesn't matter if we keep burning or not.

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On the eating of crow... [View all] GliderGuider Nov 2012 OP

The IPCC seems to have hunkered down, ... CRH Nov 2012 #1

I personally think we'll see a shift from the +3 curve to the +4.5 curve GliderGuider Nov 2012 #2

Have a question for you on sensitivity, ... CRH Nov 2012 #3

It's probably a bit of both. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #4

I suspect hunter-gatherers are more resiliant than you give them credit for NickB79 Nov 2012 #11

We may have a social collapse before 2050 NoOneMan Nov 2012 #5

I think it's virtually guaranteed. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #6

I think the decade around 2050 is when the wheels will fall off GliderGuider Nov 2012 #7

Its all about food. Its about how humans get their energy NoOneMan Nov 2012 #8

Spot on GG. n/t. CRH Nov 2012 #10

yeah , that is kinda what we be seein' for a while. ... CRH Nov 2012 #9

Who are "we"? wtmusic Nov 2012 #15

I meant we as in first world nations NoOneMan Nov 2012 #16

Regarding climate sensitivity... GliderGuider Nov 2012 #12

I don't think climate sensitivity is 3.0C. joshcryer Nov 2012 #22

It's time for me to walk back some of my alarmism GliderGuider Nov 2012 #13

There have been "doomers" for millenia NoOneMan Nov 2012 #17

It's a tightrope, all right. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #20

Pfft, I'm the alarmist here, you're the doomer. joshcryer Nov 2012 #23

Hmmm. You have a point there. GliderGuider Nov 2012 #24

Sit back and watch the world burn. joshcryer Nov 2012 #25

Kick to make sure people see my error and apology nt GliderGuider Nov 2012 #14

Emily Litella would be pscot Nov 2012 #18

;-) GliderGuider Nov 2012 #21

I thought that didn't sound right! Odin2005 Nov 2012 #19