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Scootaloo

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10. I remember reading stuff when I was a kid... All this shit was supposed to be settled by the 90's
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 03:33 AM
Dec 2012

And now it's all going to be settled by the 20's. And then it'll all be settled by 2100. And so on. "Any day now!" is said, every day, for as long as I can remember.

It's bullshit. "Just wait. Keep waiting. Wait some more! Any day now!"

Why do I say it's bullshit? Look where we stand in 2012. The science is unanimous. We're fucked, well and truly fucked. We've set the Earth on a fast track to the Eocene's climate levels again, just with what we've already done. We could stop it. We could hit the brakes on the train, maybe even very slowly start backing it up some day in the future. it would require lots of wealth invested, though. Lots of wealth, lots of time.

Instead, we spend what is it now, seven hundred billion dollars on our military? Buying new toys to kill people with. Sustaining troops and bases in nations primarily to say we have troops and bases in those nations, with a handful of others to protect our oil interests. Not just that we invest money in the militaries of other nations - Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Japan, Australia, India, Pakistan... All that welath going into making disposable "things" to kill people with. Not because we need them, but just to keep the production running, to keep consumption up, to keep production from tapering off.

But just wait! Any day now!

Don't give me this starry-eyed bullshit about "we can accomplish anything!" - Yeah, we can... but we won't. Ability is not ambition. All these nice little technologies? They're Roman Locomotives. Toys and curios that have potential but will never see accomplishment.

Unless there's some magical fucking shift in the way humans think, it just won't happen. Nations oppose non-pollution treaties because Bangladesh might get to emit a little more smoke than China or the US, or because it might not get to emit as much. Wrap your head around it, please. Look at Copenhagen and the results there. Look at Kyoto. On down the list. We're talking about trying ot fix a radical reconstruction of the global environment that we know sustains us into one there your guess is as good as mine, and our "leaders," the peopel in charge, are acting like kids fighting over who gets a bigger scoop of fucking ICE CREAM

We're fucked. We've passed the limits, and I see no signs of this changing. I'm confident that the species will persist - an ice age couldn't take us out, no reason a heat age would - but that's long-term. Short term? Things are going to go to hell within my lifetime.

Inherit the wasteland.

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You'll be sorry when the tides fail, the sun dims and the earth cools. DCKit Dec 2012 #1
I don't think its incredibly unreasonable to see a massive shift to solar in the future NoOneMan Dec 2012 #2
The problem is, there's only a small window of opportunity. Scootaloo Dec 2012 #4
We can do anything we want and we will conquer this carbon polluting issue ... MindMover Dec 2012 #5
Really? drm604 Dec 2012 #8
I remember reading stuff when I was a kid... All this shit was supposed to be settled by the 90's Scootaloo Dec 2012 #10
>. >n/t CRH Dec 2012 #13
++++ Champion Jack Dec 2012 #15
+391.8 GliderGuider Dec 2012 #21
+800 pscot Dec 2012 #26
I haven't done everything I possibly could to prevent it getting to this point wtmusic Dec 2012 #29
I'm glad you took time out of your day for this Scootaloo Dec 2012 #32
Can we do it? Yes. Will we do it? I am inclined to say not yet. Kennah Dec 2012 #3
Actually, none of what you mentioned are renewable adieu Dec 2012 #6
I suppose if you want to be overly literal then you're right, drm604 Dec 2012 #9
If we mobilized the whole nation like we did in WW2 we could do it in 5 years. ErikJ Dec 2012 #7
To do that would require an enemy we can see GliderGuider Dec 2012 #11
Oh man, that's debilitating dreamnightwind Dec 2012 #12
You realize we need to take over 100 ppm of CO2 back out of the air to stop global warming? GliderGuider Dec 2012 #16
Even better when you can make yourself believe bullshit is truth. wtmusic Dec 2012 #30
"I say it can be done." oldhippie Dec 2012 #31
Their studies ignored the true cost of infrastructure cutover and the time required particularly ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #14
Coming never...an end to people recycling Marc Jacobsen's nutcase scenario wtmusic Dec 2012 #17
Learn to think beyond negative thought traps that engender fear ... MindMover Dec 2012 #18
Learn to think beyond positive thinking traps that engender blind, mindless optimism. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #19
So mindless negativism is better .... bullhockey ... MindMover Dec 2012 #23
Sadly, it's pretty clear it's the opposite NickB79 Dec 2012 #24
No, realism is better than mindless anything. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #25
OK. I'm thinking beyond them now, and Marc Jacobsen is still full of shit. wtmusic Dec 2012 #20
In your current paradigm of thinking, anyone thinking or saying anything other than .... MindMover Dec 2012 #22
Learn to think pscot Dec 2012 #27
The Positive Power Of Crisis GliderGuider Dec 2012 #28
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