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In reply to the discussion: Kill the Economy [View all]

OKIsItJustMe

(21,875 posts)
149. How convenient!
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 04:54 PM
Dec 2012
http://www.cnn.com/FOOD/news/9910/28/japanese.diet/
[font face=Serif][font size=5]Besides diet, Japanese may be adopting Western maladies[/font]

October 28, 1999
From Correspondent Holly Firfer


[font size=3](CNN) -- Japan enjoys the highest average life expectancy of any nation, brought about in large part by a tradition of eating a healthy diet with plenty of vegetables and fish.



The young population in Japan is increasingly eating like people in the United States, a trend that has alarmed researchers.



Researchers have already noticed some effects. Diet has changed the way Japanese look. Square jaws for chewing a diet high in roughage have been replaced by softer jaw-lines. And because less intestine is needed to digest a Western diet, experts say the Japanese torso is shrinking.

And one of the most noticeable physical changes from a Westernized diet is a taller population. Nutrition researchers say dairy products in the diet, provide extra calcium to make bones to grow longer.[/font][/font]


The “Western Diet” has brought poorer health to Japan, but greater height!

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Kill the Economy [View all] Speck Tater Dec 2012 OP
Good riddance NoOneMan Dec 2012 #1
“The modern economy is slavery; it forces everyone to work in such a way their labor is exploited…” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #2
Not a bit NoOneMan Dec 2012 #5
Clearly, you don’t know what “slavery” is… OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #6
Forcing you to work to live and exploiting that labor is slavery NoOneMan Dec 2012 #9
That is very clearly framed. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #10
Um… this is BS… seriously OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #12
You know how to free a slave? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #22
You really don’t get it, do you OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #36
Of course a slave wouldn't! NoOneMan Dec 2012 #38
Nonsense OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #42
Why do you think people make "poor" choices that make them life-long servants to debt? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #43
Poor impulse control OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #46
Why? Are we born that way? Are we molded that way to benefit something? Do we "choose" it? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #47
I think Wesley had the right idea, that it takes training to combat our “natural instincts” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #48
Natural instincts? I don't see hunter-gatherers going into debt, consuming everything in sight NoOneMan Dec 2012 #49
I expect hunter-gatherers had similar problems OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #52
Well, what about those around today? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #54
So, tell me… OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #57
It is not my home, nor my people NoOneMan Dec 2012 #60
#FirstWorldProblem OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #63
That's a beautiful article about them NoOneMan Dec 2012 #65
The system is designed to push people and governments into debt cprise Dec 2012 #28
Designed by who? OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #37
Employers do not need to beat their employees to make them productive NoOneMan Dec 2012 #40
However, to be a slave, one must be owned by someone else OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #44
Almost everything around us is useless and distracting NoOneMan Dec 2012 #45
“… we believe we "need" (because something taught us so)” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #50
I completely reject your premise that humans just naturally want material objects NoOneMan Dec 2012 #51
Can you demonstrate that this desire for possessions is not natural? OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #53
Homo Sapiens were on earth long before agriculture and religion NoOneMan Dec 2012 #55
Uh huh… OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #56
Whoa, don't let that strawman catch on fire before you are done weaving it! NoOneMan Dec 2012 #58
OK, so how about at a much smaller level? OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #61
Its not about hard work NoOneMan Dec 2012 #64
Who programmed the animals? OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #66
Satan. He does everything bad. NoOneMan Dec 2012 #67
Interesting… OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #85
No, animals do not have a natural, unlearned concept of private ownership NoOneMan Dec 2012 #86
Interesting… OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #89
To be blunt, most animals cannot even prove they are self-aware NoOneMan Dec 2012 #92
Re: “To be blunt, most animals cannot even prove they are self-aware” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #94
Self-awareness and emotions are two different things NoOneMan Dec 2012 #95
I don’t believe I said that emotions and self-awareness were the same OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #96
With all due respect, NoOneMan Dec 2012 #97
So, then, you don’t believe that “animals” exhibit “natural behaviors?” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #98
In a human nature vs nurture issue... NoOneMan Dec 2012 #100
I’m sorry OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #101
Culture NoOneMan Dec 2012 #104
Have you read Daniel Quinn? GliderGuider Dec 2012 #108
Yes, and I think it is as viable as a theory as "we all suck" NoOneMan Dec 2012 #110
I don't spend a lot of energy worrying about what is "more natural" GliderGuider Dec 2012 #112
"Our key error was our choice to see ourselves as being separate from the world that sustains us" NoOneMan Dec 2012 #114
The level that consumerism requires isn't natural. We are conditioned to it as a matter of policy: cprise Dec 2012 #88
I will watch it later OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #90
Aside from consumerism, the medical system does this as well NoOneMan Dec 2012 #99
“It is a proven fact that health has declined drastically since the onset of agriculture…” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #107
Universal health care is like democracy. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #109
“In practice it has problems…” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #113
We do have a tendency to perpetually increase complexity to deal with issues NoOneMan Dec 2012 #115
I'm fond of Systemantics OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #125
“…only makes sense among a diseased population living with stress and nutritional deficiencies.” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #128
Well... NoOneMan Dec 2012 #130
"the neolithic farmers survived. The mesolithic hunter-gathers did not" NoOneMan Dec 2012 #111
Agriculture as “Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race”? – Anthropology 2.1 OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #124
I feel like Antrosio just rubbed feces into my cortex while urinating on Diamond's name NoOneMan Dec 2012 #126
Did he say the farmers were healthier? OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #127
He didn't have room to say much aside from the ad hominems NoOneMan Dec 2012 #129
“The links you posted are of the same study I posted earlier” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #135
My mistake NoOneMan Dec 2012 #141
I don’t go along with that OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #143
There was interbreeding as well NoOneMan Dec 2012 #144
“… shorter stature … agriculture coincided with a massive reduction to human health” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #145
"A decline of stature of historic populations has been used to indicate nutritional status." NoOneMan Dec 2012 #146
Just curious… OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #147
I don't know enough about a "Japanese Diet" to answer that NoOneMan Dec 2012 #148
How convenient! OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #149
So they switched some definiciencies for others NoOneMan Dec 2012 #150
“This is the science. These are the facts.” Uh huh… OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #151
Quick, send that link to the paleopathologists! NoOneMan Dec 2012 #152
This message was self-deleted by its author OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #153
Height, health, and development OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #154
Did it every occur to you that they are both correct? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #157
My key point is this OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #164
I think this is where we aren't seeing eye to eye NoOneMan Dec 2012 #165
Coevolution tama Dec 2012 #133
It is an interesting viewpoint OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #137
This has echoes of Dawkins' "Selfish Gene" hypothesis GliderGuider Dec 2012 #139
Its clear humans do those things for other species NoOneMan Dec 2012 #142
"Anthropomorphic selfish gene game theory..." tama Dec 2012 #170
Interesting idea NoOneMan Dec 2012 #171
As Socrates said: tama Dec 2012 #174
Yup. Thusly the term slave wages, FogerRox Dec 2012 #68
Well, it is safe to say you have never worked a farm AlexSatan Dec 2012 #155
I grew up on an organic farm NoOneMan Dec 2012 #158
your solution is simple backwoodsbob Dec 2012 #79
Are the 40 acres free? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #80
Thank you for making my point DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #103
Really? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #105
actually no DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #117
Agroforestry NoOneMan Dec 2012 #119
OK DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #120
There is a large variety of techniques & approaches NoOneMan Dec 2012 #122
Wow. Breathing air (necessary for life)==being on the Internet AlexSatan Dec 2012 #156
Interacting with an environment not of your choosing has no impact on the veracity of one's message NoOneMan Dec 2012 #159
You might want to look up "ad hominem attack" AlexSatan Dec 2012 #160
Yes, attacking me instead of what I am saying NoOneMan Dec 2012 #161
I mocked THE COMPARISON you made AlexSatan Dec 2012 #162
"It is just hypocritical to use a system you want to destroy" NoOneMan Dec 2012 #163
of course DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #167
Billions of people are malnourished and a billion face perpetual hunger already NoOneMan Dec 2012 #168
"You are a butthole" == ad hominem attack AlexSatan Dec 2012 #172
Ad Hominem Tu Quoque NoOneMan Dec 2012 #173
So you compare surgery and dentistry DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #166
I'm not sure where you are getting this comparison NoOneMan Dec 2012 #169
Almost all the health care advances are merely to negate the consequences of nutritional deficits, DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #59
"The emergence of agriculture may have exacerbated the dilemma..." NoOneMan Dec 2012 #62
hahahahaha DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #69
Rawest end of the forceps you mean? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #70
a few hundred years? DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #71
You want to talk about facts, but you ignore or laugh at: NoOneMan Dec 2012 #72
do provide some PROOF of point one DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #73
Head back to the "hahahaha" NoOneMan Dec 2012 #74
so DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #75
Academic studies cannot defeat civilization dogma NoOneMan Dec 2012 #76
Ummm... 2naSalit Dec 2012 #78
Higher mortality rates could be construed as such NoOneMan Dec 2012 #81
"One of the most profound changes to occur with the foraging to farming transition..... NoOneMan Dec 2012 #77
You forget one thing DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #102
Primitive medicine isn't blind intuition NoOneMan Dec 2012 #106
Without science, it is DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #116
Blind intuition or not, its really irrelevant outside of a specific context NoOneMan Dec 2012 #118
not quite DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #121
Let's please not do the dying in childbirth thing again NoOneMan Dec 2012 #123
the kind of "real" that matters is "stuff happening to me directly" - which is starting too phantom power Dec 2012 #3
Kill the economy and everyone lives happily ever after... hunter Dec 2012 #4
Socialism demands that you work for the "common good" NoOneMan Dec 2012 #8
Not much point raging against the Fates or the Furies. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #7
I couldn't agree more. Speck Tater Dec 2012 #11
And I disagree... 'survival of the fittest' cprise Dec 2012 #29
Well in that case I guess we have to pin our hopes on some alien life form Speck Tater Dec 2012 #30
You must be a blast at parties. n/t cprise Dec 2012 #31
I don't know. I never get invited! :-) nt Speck Tater Dec 2012 #32
That makes perfect sense. n/t cprise Dec 2012 #33
"'survival of the fittest' does not quite work under these conditions", we THINK. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #39
You're in E/E now... the context is ecology cprise Dec 2012 #91
You made an assertion. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #93
“Let's see what comes next.” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #13
That's a fundamental difference between us. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #14
This much is certain, we can affect our environment. (We’ve been doing it for millennia.) OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #15
"Can we really make them all that much worse at this point?" GliderGuider Dec 2012 #16
Which blind efforts are we actively making to improve our lot? OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #17
Well, let's take micro-loans. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #18
OK, let’s see… OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #19
I'll admit that my micro-loan example was a bit mischievous GliderGuider Dec 2012 #21
Certain annual hay plants tama Dec 2012 #134
First example doesn't work Iterate Dec 2012 #20
Yes on all counts, but another question comes up. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #23
It seems my skepticism about microfinance was misdirected, but not misplaced GliderGuider Dec 2012 #27
We can also tama Dec 2012 #82
Well, yes OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #84
Problem with science tama Dec 2012 #132
Sorry, I can’t see the word “objectivism” without thinking of Ayn Rand OKIsItJustMe Dec 2012 #140
There is no Sorcerer, there is just us. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #138
In addition, the system thrives on conflict NoOneMan Dec 2012 #24
Yes, "fighting the system" requires one to be part of it. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #26
GliderGuider, tama Dec 2012 #83
Mind your manners, young whippersnapper. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #87
middle age - been there, done that tama Dec 2012 #131
What a great comeback! GliderGuider Dec 2012 #136
Have you ever considered, NoOneMan Dec 2012 #25
Is this adressed specifically to GliderGuider? cprise Dec 2012 #34
Response to "I prefer to guide what comes next." NoOneMan Dec 2012 #35
No, not to me - but I agree with it completely. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #41
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