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NickB79

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24. Sadly, it's pretty clear it's the opposite

Reply to MindMover (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 05:09 PM

Dec 2012

Mother Nature is far LESS flexible than we thought.

We used to think that we'd have a few more decades before we'd see the kind of climate effects we're seeing now. We used to think that the effects we're seeing now, with 0.8C warming, wouldn't happen until we hit 2C of warming.

Turns out, we gave Mother Nature too much credit for her ability to swallow our garbage and keep chugging along.

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Coming soon: 100% renewable power [View all] MindMover Dec 2012 OP

You'll be sorry when the tides fail, the sun dims and the earth cools. DCKit Dec 2012 #1

I don't think its incredibly unreasonable to see a massive shift to solar in the future NoOneMan Dec 2012 #2

The problem is, there's only a small window of opportunity. Scootaloo Dec 2012 #4

We can do anything we want and we will conquer this carbon polluting issue ... MindMover Dec 2012 #5

Really? drm604 Dec 2012 #8

I remember reading stuff when I was a kid... All this shit was supposed to be settled by the 90's Scootaloo Dec 2012 #10

>. >n/t CRH Dec 2012 #13

++++ Champion Jack Dec 2012 #15

+391.8 GliderGuider Dec 2012 #21

+800 pscot Dec 2012 #26

I haven't done everything I possibly could to prevent it getting to this point wtmusic Dec 2012 #29

I'm glad you took time out of your day for this Scootaloo Dec 2012 #32

Can we do it? Yes. Will we do it? I am inclined to say not yet. Kennah Dec 2012 #3

Actually, none of what you mentioned are renewable adieu Dec 2012 #6

I suppose if you want to be overly literal then you're right, drm604 Dec 2012 #9

If we mobilized the whole nation like we did in WW2 we could do it in 5 years. ErikJ Dec 2012 #7

To do that would require an enemy we can see GliderGuider Dec 2012 #11

Oh man, that's debilitating dreamnightwind Dec 2012 #12

You realize we need to take over 100 ppm of CO2 back out of the air to stop global warming? GliderGuider Dec 2012 #16

Even better when you can make yourself believe bullshit is truth. wtmusic Dec 2012 #30

"I say it can be done." oldhippie Dec 2012 #31

Their studies ignored the true cost of infrastructure cutover and the time required particularly ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #14

Coming never...an end to people recycling Marc Jacobsen's nutcase scenario wtmusic Dec 2012 #17

Learn to think beyond negative thought traps that engender fear ... MindMover Dec 2012 #18

Learn to think beyond positive thinking traps that engender blind, mindless optimism. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #19

So mindless negativism is better .... bullhockey ... MindMover Dec 2012 #23

Sadly, it's pretty clear it's the opposite NickB79 Dec 2012 #24

No, realism is better than mindless anything. GliderGuider Dec 2012 #25

OK. I'm thinking beyond them now, and Marc Jacobsen is still full of shit. wtmusic Dec 2012 #20

In your current paradigm of thinking, anyone thinking or saying anything other than .... MindMover Dec 2012 #22

Learn to think pscot Dec 2012 #27

The Positive Power Of Crisis GliderGuider Dec 2012 #28