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Environment & Energy

NoOneMan

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15. So at the tail end of the Age of Cheap Energy and Plentiful Food...

Reply to FarCenter (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 7, 2013, 05:58 PM

Jan 2013

We have bankrupt governments people don't believe in, failing dykes, crumbling bridges, obsolete sewer systems, hungry people, etc, but we are supposed to imagine that in the next 50 to 100 years (after food systems are devastated and we suck most of the easy oil out of the sea) governments will find the energy, capital, political will, labor, materialials, etc, to compensate and mitigate the effects of the rising seas?

If there is any time to fix our cities for climate change, it was yesterday. It didn't happen. Its not going to get easier. We aren't going to be able to brush this off any better in the future.

We are squandering what is left of our bounty on useless toys, presuming that when we get to the cans we kicked down the road that we will be able to handle the issues (as if energy is infinite). That is a fantasy.

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Getting weary of arguing with poster who says that 3 foot sea level rise won't matter [View all] CreekDog Jan 2013 OP

Kinda pointless trying to educate people who prefer to remain ignorant. nt Speck Tater Jan 2013 #1

I find there are some hard-core climate deniers that no reason can influence... immoderate Jan 2013 #2

Tell him to move now to the Florida Keys. sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #3

+1 Scuba Jan 2013 #4

! CreekDog Jan 2013 #8

Don't know if this helped PADemD Jan 2013 #5

To some, its a disaster. To others, it wont be their primary concern NoOneMan Jan 2013 #6

That's my take on it as well. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #7

I tend to agree OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #11

The answer is trees, trees and more trees NoOneMan Jan 2013 #13

Trees are at best part of a possible answer OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #18

Well, it depends on what you are trying to solve NoOneMan Jan 2013 #21

2�C warming was (somewhat arbitrarily) decided to be the safe limit OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #22

The Moringa tree also could serve a role. Stevepol Jan 2013 #24

"incorporate woody perennials into our food systems" NickB79 Jan 2013 #25

Awesome work! NoOneMan Jan 2013 #28

The actual impact is probably closer to "won't matter" than to "horrible" FarCenter Jan 2013 #9

Oh! I see now! FBaggins Jan 2013 #10

No, the sea level rise makes the 30 foot surge the equivalent of a 33 foot surge. FarCenter Jan 2013 #12

Your examples miss the reality. FBaggins Jan 2013 #16

Katrina was 27 feet over about 20 miles FarCenter Jan 2013 #19

You may have noticed that Katrina overwhelmed coastal defenses. FBaggins Jan 2013 #26

So at the tail end of the Age of Cheap Energy and Plentiful Food... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #15

I'd expect that by 2100 the population will be small enough to live on higher ground FarCenter Jan 2013 #17

And that is the only reason I'd rate this as "won't matter" (so much) NoOneMan Jan 2013 #20

Uhhhh...huh huh...mmmm heh heh...huh huh...he said..."Fundy". Mmmm huh huh huh.... Systematic Chaos Jan 2013 #14

Three feet is much for the Florida Keys, but, CRH Jan 2013 #23

It will matter in that people have adapted to living on the coasts of every continent OnlinePoker Jan 2013 #27