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GliderGuider

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8. I would invite you to read section 5 of the paper.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:57 PM
Jan 2013

I understand that environmentalists are in general allergic to Jevons.

The implication is that, at least for global economic systems, changes in energy efficiency and energy productivity are equivalent. Through Eq. 10, both accelerate GWP growth even if they do not in fact lead to a decrease in overall energy consumption, as is commonly assumed (Pacala and Socolow, 2004; Raupach et al., 2007). At global scales, Jevons’ Paradox holds.

These conclusions have direct bearing on global scale emissions of CO2. Just as civilization can be treated as being well-mixed over timescales relevant to economic growth, atmospheric concentrations of CO2 are also well-mixed over timescales relevant to global warming forecasts. Thus, for the purpose of relating the economy to atmospheric CO2 concentrations, what matters is only how fast civilization as a whole is emitting CO2.

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The truth about “Jevons Paradox” OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #1
Are you claiming that this somehow disputes the rebound principle? GliderGuider Jan 2013 #2
The “rebound effect” is real, but its magnitude is exaggerated OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #5
I would invite you to read section 5 of the paper. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #8
Truthfully, telling me that a paper proves (among other things) that the “Jevons Paradox…is real”… OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #10
As I said below, GliderGuider Jan 2013 #11
Whose reasoning is motivated? Mine? Yours? or the author’s? OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #12
Well, I'm not throwing up the impassioned defense, and the author just wrote a paper. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #15
Oh, energy efficiency can’t save civilization by itself OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #16
Mangling Energy Efficiency Economics OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #13
Some Dilemma: Efficient Appliances Use Less Energy, Produce the Same Level of Service with Less… OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #14
Well, just to start.... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #20
You buck the system AldoLeopold Jan 2013 #24
Energy Efficiency is for Real, Energy Rebound a Distraction OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #17
I know exactly how the general public will respond to this... Speck Tater Jan 2013 #3
Of course they will. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #4
But on the other hand, what can we expect? Speck Tater Jan 2013 #6
I doubt the general public would be able to understand this even if they wanted too. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #7
Yes, that's why I posted it here instead of in GD GliderGuider Jan 2013 #9
Prosperity is when everyone has enough to eat, a safe place to sleep... hunter Jan 2013 #18
True that. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #19
I thought prosperity is when everyone within earshot has those things NoOneMan Jan 2013 #21
+1 nt eppur_se_muova Jan 2013 #22
+100 Well said. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #23
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