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OKIsItJustMe

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10. Truthfully, telling me that a paper proves (among other things) that the “Jevons Paradox…is real”…
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jan 2013

…is similar to telling me that an astronomical paper proves (among other things) that the Moon is made of green cheese.

My reaction is that since the author is promulgating one massive fundamental error (or misrepresentation) I’m not really interested in what other things the paper may have to say.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2011/02/16/207532/debunking-jevons-paradox-jim-barrett/

[font face=Serif][font size=5]Debunking the Jevons Paradox: Nobody goes there anymore, its too crowded[/font]

By Climate Guest Blogger on Feb 16, 2011 at 11:53 am

[font size=3]The “Jevons paradox,” asserts that increasing “the efficiency with which a resource is used tends to increase (rather than decrease) the rate of consumption of that resource.” It is mostly if not entirely bunk, as the scientific literature and leading experts have demonstrated many times (see “Efficiency lives -- the rebound effect, not so much“).

But it lingers on in part because it is one of those quirky, ill-defined contrarian notions that the media can’t get enough of and in part because those who oppose clean energy, often for bizarre ideological reasons, keep pushing it.

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The truth about “Jevons Paradox” OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #1
Are you claiming that this somehow disputes the rebound principle? GliderGuider Jan 2013 #2
The “rebound effect” is real, but its magnitude is exaggerated OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #5
I would invite you to read section 5 of the paper. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #8
Truthfully, telling me that a paper proves (among other things) that the “Jevons Paradox…is real”… OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #10
As I said below, GliderGuider Jan 2013 #11
Whose reasoning is motivated? Mine? Yours? or the author’s? OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #12
Well, I'm not throwing up the impassioned defense, and the author just wrote a paper. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #15
Oh, energy efficiency can’t save civilization by itself OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #16
Mangling Energy Efficiency Economics OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #13
Some Dilemma: Efficient Appliances Use Less Energy, Produce the Same Level of Service with Less… OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #14
Well, just to start.... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #20
You buck the system AldoLeopold Jan 2013 #24
Energy Efficiency is for Real, Energy Rebound a Distraction OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #17
I know exactly how the general public will respond to this... Speck Tater Jan 2013 #3
Of course they will. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #4
But on the other hand, what can we expect? Speck Tater Jan 2013 #6
I doubt the general public would be able to understand this even if they wanted too. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #7
Yes, that's why I posted it here instead of in GD GliderGuider Jan 2013 #9
Prosperity is when everyone has enough to eat, a safe place to sleep... hunter Jan 2013 #18
True that. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #19
I thought prosperity is when everyone within earshot has those things NoOneMan Jan 2013 #21
+1 nt eppur_se_muova Jan 2013 #22
+100 Well said. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #23
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