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OKIsItJustMe

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13. Mangling Energy Efficiency Economics
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:57 PM
Jan 2013
http://blogs.cfr.org/levi/2010/12/14/mangling-energy-efficiency-economics/
[font face=Serif][font size=5]Mangling Energy Efficiency Economics[/font]

by Michael Levi
December 14, 2010

[font size=3]Switch to a more efficient car, and you’ll drive a bit more, since extra gasoline now costs you less. This well-known phenomenon is known as the “rebound effect”. In the case of cars, it eats up about ten percent of the fuel savings from greater fuel efficiency. But at the level of economies, many believe, it’s much worse. All the money saved through more efficient automobiles and better refrigerators doesn’t just mean more summer road trips and Sub-Zeros – it means more money pumped into the whole economy, and hence greater emissions overall.

That’s a minority view, for good reason: it’s wrong. But in a long essay in the new issue of the New Yorker, David Owen buys it hook, line, and sinker. He’s enamored of the work of 19th century British economist Stanley Jevons, and while Stanford’s Lee Schipper clearly spent oodles of time trying to explain to him why what Jevons wrote doesn’t apply to today’s economy, Owen isn’t believing him for a second.

I was planning to go through the article and pick apart every instance of silly logic, but those piled up so high that that goal became unrealistic. Instead, let me focus on two passages that capture the essence of Owen’s mistakes. …[/font][/font]

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The truth about “Jevons Paradox” OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #1
Are you claiming that this somehow disputes the rebound principle? GliderGuider Jan 2013 #2
The “rebound effect” is real, but its magnitude is exaggerated OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #5
I would invite you to read section 5 of the paper. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #8
Truthfully, telling me that a paper proves (among other things) that the “Jevons Paradox…is real”… OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #10
As I said below, GliderGuider Jan 2013 #11
Whose reasoning is motivated? Mine? Yours? or the author’s? OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #12
Well, I'm not throwing up the impassioned defense, and the author just wrote a paper. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #15
Oh, energy efficiency can’t save civilization by itself OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #16
Mangling Energy Efficiency Economics OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #13
Some Dilemma: Efficient Appliances Use Less Energy, Produce the Same Level of Service with Less… OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #14
Well, just to start.... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #20
You buck the system AldoLeopold Jan 2013 #24
Energy Efficiency is for Real, Energy Rebound a Distraction OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #17
I know exactly how the general public will respond to this... Speck Tater Jan 2013 #3
Of course they will. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #4
But on the other hand, what can we expect? Speck Tater Jan 2013 #6
I doubt the general public would be able to understand this even if they wanted too. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #7
Yes, that's why I posted it here instead of in GD GliderGuider Jan 2013 #9
Prosperity is when everyone has enough to eat, a safe place to sleep... hunter Jan 2013 #18
True that. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #19
I thought prosperity is when everyone within earshot has those things NoOneMan Jan 2013 #21
+1 nt eppur_se_muova Jan 2013 #22
+100 Well said. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #23
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