Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
43. Our brains didn't evolve to assess risks far into the future.
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jan 2013

We're really good at reacting to a snapping twig behind the next tree. We're not so good at reacting to a distant rumble somewhere out over the horizon.

People keep thinking that we as a species should be good at reacting to calculated future risks, and that our failure to react constitutes a moral shortcoming. It ain't so. Our brains didn't evolve to do that, so if there is any shortcoming it's in the mechanism that Mother Nature gave us to process reality. Some individuals react very emotionally to abstract future threats, but we're in the distinct minority.

Even among environmentalists and ecologists there are those who simply can't get excited about potential existential threats, and consequently minimize the warnings of those of us who do. There's nothing "wrong" with them, either - their brain function is just a little closer to the mean than ours in this regard.

Regarding happiness, I just meant to say that I don't see a crash of civilization as erasing all future chances for human happiness, as though happiness only came packaged with televisions and iPads.

Freedom is a state of mind, not an externally bestowed quality. I suspect Nelson Mandela during his incarceration was a freer man than many on this board who are held prisoner by jobs, social expectations and small dreams.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

The planet is not in lousy shape. Cary Jan 2013 #1
"Planet" is a shorthand for the biosphere. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #5
I meant only to highlight our own arrogance and stupdity as a species. Cary Jan 2013 #11
Oh yes. I know what we are. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #12
Ah, the big picture. wtmusic Jan 2013 #6
"The problem of industrialization" - not accepting your premise. wtmusic Jan 2013 #2
Well, there you go then! GliderGuider Jan 2013 #3
That's the best you can do? wtmusic Jan 2013 #4
I see no point in arguing - would I be able to change your opinion? GliderGuider Jan 2013 #7
Well, I try to keep an open mind. wtmusic Jan 2013 #9
Yeah, I got reactive in my reply there, sorry. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #10
"At least until some other source provides us with a better power return..." NoOneMan Jan 2013 #14
That feels a lot like the crux of the dilemma to me. nt GliderGuider Jan 2013 #17
If it makes you feel any better, GliderGuider Jan 2013 #8
Agree. We should have powered the industrial revolution with fairy powder NoOneMan Jan 2013 #13
Here's the problem as I see it GliderGuider Jan 2013 #15
If civilization is not, why are we here today and why can't we stop it? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #16
I think that's the thing most people don't understand. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #18
Oil powered the industrial revolution? wtmusic Jan 2013 #21
Sorry, I meant to type "fossil fuels" NoOneMan Jan 2013 #22
I know...oil, coal, nuclear, all that progress shit. wtmusic Jan 2013 #23
Define progress NoOneMan Jan 2013 #24
I'd have to pick "B" wtmusic Jan 2013 #25
I'm not sure how much we have made then (if any at all) NoOneMan Jan 2013 #27
Life expectancy is a pretty good indicator of the human condition wtmusic Jan 2013 #28
I don't really think that has a clear relationship to happiness and suffering. NoOneMan Jan 2013 #29
Google "life expectancy well-being" and you will find overwhelming evidence wtmusic Jan 2013 #30
I'm not really using an established western definition of "well-being" to be honest NoOneMan Jan 2013 #31
I'm using the UN's definition. wtmusic Jan 2013 #32
Are they the authority on human happiness? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #33
Please, define happiness however you like. wtmusic Jan 2013 #34
So your answer is "yes"? All our improved happiness (if we have any) is worth climate change? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #35
Yes, it's worth a certain amount. wtmusic Jan 2013 #36
Then screw climate change. Lets focus on promoting happiness NoOneMan Jan 2013 #37
I don't really need to point out the false dichotomy wtmusic Jan 2013 #38
There is no reason to not throw in the towel NoOneMan Jan 2013 #39
BTW, do you realize every environtmental disaster can now be written off? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #40
The problem is, happiness does not correlate with technology GliderGuider Jan 2013 #41
"I find that comforting" NoOneMan Jan 2013 #42
Our brains didn't evolve to assess risks far into the future. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #43
You've jumped the shark. wtmusic Jan 2013 #44
Actually I'm not going to tell anyone what does or doesn't make them happy. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #45
Population vs Consumption, ... CRH Jan 2013 #19
The Black Queen and leaky fuctions Iterate Jan 2013 #20
Both are killing the planet. (nt) NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #26
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Environment & Energy»Laying Blame: Population ...»Reply #43