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34. More REVISIONIST history

longship stated:
Now Teller was an asshole from day one. He has been called the father of the H-bomb, but his first design tested was a dud -- it fizzled. So not only was he an asshole who wanted to make a bomb which was unnecessary and which responsible physicists opposed, including Oppenheimer, Szilard, and many others, he politically opposed those who opposed his saber rattling. He single-handedly destroyed Oppie for his opposition to The Super. Read about Oppie and you will know.

longship,

I HAVE studied this - evidently more than you have, and have access to more of the history.

You are 100% WRONG about Teller. First, his first experiment was NOT a "fizzle". The first experiment in thermonuclear weaponry was the test code named "Greenhouse George". It was not supposed to be a full scale hydrogen bomb. What it was supposed to do - it did VERY WELL. That gave the scientists confidence to proceed with the design of Ivy Mike, which was the first full scale test. Ivy Mike had a yield of 10 Megatons - no fizzle.

You are also ignorant of the history of the need for the H-bomb. Read Andrei Sakharov's autobiography "Memoirs". I can tell you EXACTLY the place to read - page 99 and 100. Sakharov states that as of 1948, even before the USA decided on going forward with H-bomb development, Stalin and Beria had already decided the USSR would pursue it. He states the USSR was going full forward with H-bomb development whether or not the USA did. Sakharov says that while Oppenheimers and others motives were OK; they were naive. He says Teller was right, and glad the USA followed Teller and not Oppie.

Teller didn't destroy Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer did it to himself. Oppenheimer embarrassed AEC Chairman Lewis Strauss; and it was Strauss that "got Oppenheimer".

You not only are WRONG; you are also PRESUMPTUOUS. I have read all of Rhodes books. I also read the books of others involved in nuclear weapons development. I read Sakharov.

I did watch the video. No loss here. Why are you so arrogantly presumptive as to make claims you can't possible know?

I will lecture you because you just know the "popular" history and not the true story.

I've met Teller, attended seminars; and the main was positively BRILLIANT. He saw a way to make H-bombs, when Oppie thought it was impossible.

I don't need any more physics classes. I am a physicist at Lawrence Livermore National Lab. I DO KNOW the history of my profession.

PamW