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Speck Tater

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17. Good point. copare the two scenarios...

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:38 PM

Jan 2013

A limited population crash now could actually be a good thing for the species, long run.
Global warming has no potential to be good news if it keeps on accelerating.

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AGW: a bigger issue than overpopulation? [View all] GliderGuider Jan 2013 OP

What's AGW? tama Jan 2013 #1

Sorry, it's "Anthropogenic Global Warming" GliderGuider Jan 2013 #2

Urban consumer myopia tama Jan 2013 #3

Lots of emotive drama GliderGuider Jan 2013 #6

Emotive drama? tama Jan 2013 #8

Oedipus is not "emotive drama"? GliderGuider Jan 2013 #9

Nice meal, tummy full, good woman, tama Jan 2013 #13

My grumpy friend tama Jan 2013 #46

Thank you so much for that. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #47

Let's not underestimate intellect tama Jan 2013 #48

Yes - both/and instead of either/or. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #49

And courage nt tama Jan 2013 #50

Toujours courage, mon vieux! nt GliderGuider Jan 2013 #53

AGW without a doubt, ... CRH Jan 2013 #4

Good point. copare the two scenarios... Speck Tater Jan 2013 #17

To me any one issue isn't really bigger or smaller than the next The2ndWheel Jan 2013 #5

If not bigger or smaller, how about "more or less urgent"? nt GliderGuider Jan 2013 #7

Nobody can agree on that either The2ndWheel Jan 2013 #10

That's pretty much my take on it. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #11

Both issues are important, but, ... CRH Jan 2013 #12

Perhaps both are mutually correcting in a feedback loop? GliderGuider Jan 2013 #14

That is the scenario I perceive, ... CRH Jan 2013 #15

So it goes... nt GliderGuider Jan 2013 #16

Or homo sapiens more clever than wise NoOneMan Jan 2013 #24

Tool monkeys GliderGuider Jan 2013 #26

Tool Monkeys fuck yeah! indeed. n/t CRH Jan 2013 #34

AGW. But then, I've always held nature & wildlife in higher regard than people. nt raouldukelives Jan 2013 #18

Me too. truebluegreen Jan 2013 #51

Self organizing systems... NoOneMan Jan 2013 #19

Mmmhmm. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #21

‘Population Bomb’ scientist: ‘Nobody’ has the right to ‘as many children as they want’ Judi Lynn Jan 2013 #20

I read this, and I'm still a bit in the dark on one thing. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #22

If no couple had more than two children wtmusic Jan 2013 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author wtmusic Jan 2013 #29

Actually, I might try and claim that. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author wtmusic Jan 2013 #32

Nope, no special powers. And I'm just as human and illusion-ridden as the next schmoe. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #35

This thing is quite the mind fuck, eh? NoOneMan Jan 2013 #37

Thank you. Yes, it is. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #41

I have a question for you on the two child family, ... CRH Jan 2013 #36

No, thats not quite right NoOneMan Jan 2013 #38

Yeah that is what I am wrestling with, ... CRH Jan 2013 #39

There is a finite number of generations alive at any given time. NoOneMan Jan 2013 #42

No, two is the right number. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #43

Ok I guess, but my brain still resists, ... CRH Jan 2013 #44

Yes, you got it. Plus... GliderGuider Jan 2013 #45

I went through this same process on DU a few years ago. wtmusic Jan 2013 #52

Your scenario (roughly double the death rate) would still be 'overpopulation' muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #23

I don't think it "solves" it - and there's one twist to my scenario GliderGuider Jan 2013 #25

You said "Climate change will fix that (overpopulation)" is your position muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #33

Oh dear. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #40

Anthropogenic Climate Change is an overriding priority OKIsItJustMe Jan 2013 #28

So stipulated, your Honor. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #31