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Bernardo de La Paz

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26. I agree, overly idealistic. Surrender of the ego is required, but not kneeling.

Reply to GliderGuider (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:05 PM

Jan 2013

I too have a degree in computer science. I program machines. I know the limititations. The poem is obviously overly idealistic, but cybernetics is a cornerstone of our future technologies (along with nanotech materials science and genetic manipulation). Those who eschew it or would like to wish it away are even more hopelessly idealistic than Brautigan's poem.

Gratitude, humility, and interdependence are indispensable.

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Murder Most Foul [View all] GliderGuider Jan 2013 OP

So true. joshcryer Jan 2013 #1

I have to admit to a certain ambivalence toward technology GliderGuider Jan 2013 #2

As an anti-capitalist I look at this picture and want to punch it. joshcryer Jan 2013 #3

I think recovering from technophilia is like recovering from any addiction. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #4

Sadly, GG... joshcryer Jan 2013 #5

Oh, I'm planning to die whenever it's my time. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #6

You're Canadian, right? joshcryer Jan 2013 #7

Yes. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #8

Its too tough to predict what might happen anywhere NoOneMan Jan 2013 #32

The models predict that mid and equatorial latitude areas will be drier. joshcryer Jan 2013 #34

Burning wood for heat, etc is the most destructive form of energy dbackjon Jan 2013 #10

But how will we ever get the songbirds out of the trees to eat GliderGuider Jan 2013 #13

Done properly, it is very sustainable NickB79 Jan 2013 #35

Wood can be sustainable for very small populations dbackjon Jan 2013 #36

Thousands of years of history, momentum, and complexity The2ndWheel Jan 2013 #14

Thank you GG for the Ho'oponopono BanzaiBonnie Jan 2013 #23

You're welcome. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #25

Great post josh tama Jan 2013 #9

Technophilia is becoming a religious movement NoOneMan Jan 2013 #31

It's a salvation theology. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #33

Ok littlemissmartypants Jan 2013 #11

Tradition. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #12

Gaia Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2013 #16

Very serious, but we are stuck with it and will find the balance. How hard we make it on ourselves Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2013 #15

Yes, the answer is in the balance. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #18

Yes, but kneeling is not required ... Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2013 #20

Hmm - not exactly my vision of paradise. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #21

I agree, overly idealistic. Surrender of the ego is required, but not kneeling. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2013 #26

The pride that keeps us from kneeling is what will do us in. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #27

The pride of making showy gestures like kneeling is equally destructive. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2013 #28

OK, so let's just agree that we need to dump all our pride. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #29

Hey, we are equally useless! NoOneMan Jan 2013 #30

Adapting to a chaotic, constantly shifting dynamic The2ndWheel Jan 2013 #22

That's why the coming reset of the balance point is going to be such a doozy. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #24

Inherit or Borrow? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2013 #17

We borrow it not just from our children, but from all life. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #19