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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 04:00 PM Jan 2013

A question about greed [View all]

I asked this question in another thread, but I'd like to hear as many thoughts on it as possible so I'm bringing is up as an OP.

The world faces an enormous array of converging problems. We all know the litany:

  • Climate change
  • Deforestation
  • Topsoil depletion
  • Fresh water loss
  • Pollution of all kinds (air, soil, water)
  • Habitat loss
  • Global economic instability
  • Rising energy and food prices
  • Extinctions, including the depletion of global fisheries
  • etc.
When we ask why any of these are happening, the usual answer that comes back is "Greed!".

This makes me wonder why it is that we see everything our species does as being greedy (which is quite an emotionally a loaded and judgmental word, btw). I have no doubt that if you asked the workers of the world - the farmers, fishermen, truck drivers, miners, factory workers, the managers of all kinds, and maybe even even the bankers - about their motives for doing what they do, you'd get a fairly standard answer: "I'm trying to give my children a better life than I have."

What makes the difference between how we see them - as greedy - and how we see ourselves - as virtuous?

Is it as simple matter of "me vs. you" as in, "My desires are legitimate, but yours are greedy"? (As an aside, can any of us consider ourselves personally to be greedy on the global stage?) Are we perhaps a broken species, either morally or genetically flawed? Is the problem a lack of education? Or is it something else entirely?

What are your thoughts?
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A question about greed [View all] GliderGuider Jan 2013 OP
Bad genetics pscot Jan 2013 #1
The issue is one of the evolutionary process itself? GliderGuider Jan 2013 #4
Bad in a survival sense pscot Jan 2013 #8
OK, I wondered if that was how you meant it GliderGuider Jan 2013 #9
thinking much farther ahead than the next meal has nearly zero evolutionary value phantom power Jan 2013 #2
So all this is perfectly normal, then? GliderGuider Jan 2013 #3
I guess my answer is "yes" phantom power Jan 2013 #6
Too much Social Darwinism reteachinwi Jan 2013 #5
Thanks! GliderGuider Jan 2013 #7
That competitiveness seems to be cultural pscot Jan 2013 #10
That's an interesting point. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #11
You hit the nail on the head Shankapotomus Jan 2013 #22
Everything wants resources and energy from something else NoOneMan Jan 2013 #12
Do humans need more than 2800 calories a day of food, GliderGuider Jan 2013 #15
In general, no NoOneMan Jan 2013 #17
Crashing back to a Zimbabwean standard of living would be catastrophic GliderGuider Jan 2013 #21
Greed... Fumesucker Jan 2013 #13
If we harm others without knowing we're doing it, is it still greed? GliderGuider Jan 2013 #14
I pointed out when it's *definitely* greed.. Fumesucker Jan 2013 #16
Actually, I don't have any quibbles at all with what you posted. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #19
Death by a thousand improvements? The2ndWheel Jan 2013 #18
Yes, that's my take on how we got here. GliderGuider Jan 2013 #20
Until humans think and act communally, ... CRH Jan 2013 #23
Thank you! GliderGuider Jan 2013 #24
Thank You! I absolutely love ... CRH Jan 2013 #25
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