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FBaggins

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24. Roughly 4-5 times as much is "swamping" in my estimation
Mon Jan 9, 2012, 04:00 PM
Jan 2012

I'm pretty sure that it fits most uses. If I have three times as much work as normal... I'm pretty "swamped". No?

Nuclear has spend three decades in gradual decline while wind power is growing more rapidly than ever (ignoring short-term fluctuations).

Comparing project to project is not terribly helpful. For example, a small town may erect a wind turbine or 2 (how many small towns will erect a nuclear plant?) Does that mean that nuclear is swamping wind? Or does it mean that wind is swamping nuclear?

Pointing out that this single nuclear expansion (two units), when operational, will produce about as much electricity annually as the current ten largest wind plants in the world (many covering tens of thousands of acres) is certainly relevant... and there could easily be three or four such projects starting up in the next two or three years.

What I don't see is why one or the other has to be "winning"... so long as coal starts losing. Nothing would make me happier than to see this competition ramp up tenfold in the coming years.

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All the big dams have already been built. hunter Jan 2012 #1
Once upon a time Nederland Jan 2012 #2
We're including ethanol added to gasoline as "renewable power", are we? wtmusic Jan 2012 #3
Nukes and ethanol both have externalized social costs and require huge public subsidies Kolesar Jan 2012 #4
Wind subsidies/tax credits, as a proportion of the actual product they deliver wtmusic Jan 2012 #12
Let me show you how to support your claims kristopher Jan 2012 #6
ERROR!! ERROR!! ERROR!!! PamW Jan 2012 #9
classic move Maslo55 Jan 2012 #5
That makes no sense at all. kristopher Jan 2012 #7
This old saw PamW Jan 2012 #10
... Maslo55 Jan 2012 #28
I frequently see wind turbine blades traveling down the highway waddirum Jan 2012 #8
Compare the output power. PamW Jan 2012 #11
Hmmm… OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #13
Do you know the difference between a loan guarantee and a loan? wtmusic Jan 2012 #14
It appears that these two projects are about the same order of magnitude OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #15
A bit of a stretch. FBaggins Jan 2012 #16
This is one project OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #17
What's the next-largest in the US? FBaggins Jan 2012 #18
Why does this matter? OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #19
Because it's the relevant comparison. FBaggins Jan 2012 #20
I guess we need a more precise definition of “swamp” and “meager” OKIsItJustMe Jan 2012 #23
Roughly 4-5 times as much is "swamping" in my estimation FBaggins Jan 2012 #24
This demonstrates your false reasoning kristopher Jan 2012 #25
What percentage of the average wind turbine is produced at that plant? FBaggins Jan 2012 #26
Two problems with your take on this. kristopher Jan 2012 #27
Nope Maslo55 Jan 2012 #29
Nuclear Loan Guarantees Aren’t Just Guarantees: They are Actual Taxpayer Loans bananas Jan 2012 #30
No, they aren't. wtmusic Jan 2012 #31
Actually... they are. But why is that a bad thing? FBaggins Jan 2012 #32
IF the loan goes bad. wtmusic Jan 2012 #33
I love when nuclear proponents use that foolish claim kristopher Jan 2012 #21
Lol! And you're still spinning that nonsense. FBaggins Jan 2012 #22
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