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PamW

(1,825 posts)
19. WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!!
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:12 PM
Feb 2013

RobertEarl states:
Claiming, as you do that "... they knew already that MOX didn't have a thing to do with the #3 explosion..." is quite a bold statement without any science to back it up.

There's PLENTY of science to back up that the MOX had nothing to do with it.

First, MOX can't explode. MOX is only about 7% plutonium; that percentage is WAY too low. Saying that MOX is explosive is about as implausible as saying that a mixture of 1% gasoline in 99% water is explosive.

The Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty Organization is setup to test for nuclear explosions. They are the United Nations organization that is setup to police the CTBT when / if it goes into effect. They have to be able to distinguish between a nuclear explosion and the effluent from a reactor accident.

Suppose there was a country that wanted to make nuclear weapons and test them even though they signed the CTBT promising not too. If they had a nuclear reactor, and they designed a nuclear bomb and tested it, the fallout from the explosion would be detected outside their country. They could then just claim, "We had a reactor accident, like Fukushima. That's where the fallout came from". How could CTBT prove that they actually exploded a bomb in violation of the Treaty.

It turns out that bombs use a fast or high-energy neutron spectrum; they have to. Reactors mostly use a slow or low-energy neutron spectrum. The distribution of fallout products from fissions depends on the energy of the incident neutrons. Therefore, the fallout from a bomb looks different in composition than the fallout from a reactor accident. That's how CTBTO can check to see if the fallout is from a nuclear explosion or a reactor accident.

In the case of Fukushima, the CTBTO says that the fallout they measure was from a damage reactor, and NOT a nuclear explosion like that IDIOT Gundersen claimed:

http://www.ctbto.org/press-centre/highlights/2011/fukushima-related-measurements-by-the-ctbto/

The CTBTO’s monitoring system, custom-tailored to detecting nuclear explosions, can detect a range of radioactive isotopes, among them Iodine-131 and Caesium-137. Looking at the ratios between the various radioactive isotopes – in particular Caesium-137 – enables the source of the emission to be identified. In the case of the current readings, findings clearly indicate radionuclide releases from a damaged nuclear power plant, which is consistent with the recent accident at Fukushima in Japan.

BTW, since you obviously don't know the requisite science; you should refrain from telling those that do know the science what has / has not been proven by the science. You are way over your head.

PamW

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looks as appetizing as the tanked water in LA hotels. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2013 #1
I understand that the taste was a bit "off". NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #3
Cherenkov blue nt Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #26
Cherenkov? I don't think so. PamW Feb 2013 #29
That would be true if the reactors were active and thus the highest source of radiation Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #30
Two years, right? RobertEarl Feb 2013 #2
Gundersen's theory was disproven as soon as we knew SFP3 held water. FBaggins Feb 2013 #4
So, under the bus with Gunderson is your point eh? Vinnie From Indy Feb 2013 #5
Under the bus? FBaggins Feb 2013 #7
Yes RobertEarl Feb 2013 #6
Sorry... you still haven't gotten any closer to knowing what you're talking about. FBaggins Feb 2013 #8
Duke paid attention to MOX RobertEarl Feb 2013 #9
None of that's true. FBaggins Feb 2013 #10
Yep, Plutonium all over. RobertEarl Feb 2013 #11
Duke wouldn't be processing their plutonium for them FBaggins Feb 2013 #13
You got one thing right. RobertEarl Feb 2013 #15
Nope. Got 'em all right. FBaggins Feb 2013 #16
Nothing about costs too much RobertEarl Feb 2013 #17
WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!! PamW Feb 2013 #19
I know. How dare i question the science!! RobertEarl Feb 2013 #22
You have a right to your own opinion.. PamW Feb 2013 #25
If you knew the history, you would know that's what "unable to reach agreement" meant. FBaggins Feb 2013 #21
Nothing about costs yet? RobertEarl Feb 2013 #23
Actually, there was another hydrogen explosion.. PamW Feb 2013 #27
FBaggins is correct!! PamW Feb 2013 #31
Gundersen is a FIRST CLASS IDIOT!!! PamW Feb 2013 #18
Arnie is one great guy RobertEarl Feb 2013 #20
Arnie is an IDIOT!!! PamW Feb 2013 #24
High radiation bars decommissioning of Fukushima plant kristopher Feb 2013 #12
Wrong thread FBaggins Feb 2013 #14
Uh-oh. I think I see a Despair Squid. n/t Ian David Feb 2013 #28
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