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PamW

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31. FBaggins is correct!!
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:44 PM
Feb 2013

FBaggins is correct.

ALL nuclear power reactors have plutonium in them ( assuming they've been operating ) whether or not you put MOX in them.

The Uranium fuel in a power reactor is only about 3% to 4% made of the fissile Uranium-235. U-235 is really the reactor's fuel. The other 96% to 97% of the Uranium in the reactor is non-fissile Uranium-238.

The Uranium-238 can be fissioned but only by very high energy or fast neutrons fresh from fission. The VAST majority of the neutrons in the reactor (>99%) are slow neutrons and Uranium-238 will NOT fission with slow neutrons.

However, when slow neutrons hit Uranium-238; it will capture the neutron, and then radioactively decay to Plutonium-239:

U-238 + n --> U-239 --> Np-239 --> Pu-239

Uranium-238 absorbs a neutron, temporarily becoming U-239; which then "beta" decays to Neptunium-239, which again "beta" decays to Plutonium-239.

That is happening all the time in an operating reactor. The operating power reactor is continually making plutonium, and it is both being burned / fissioned ( 40% of the energy you get from a power reactor comes from fissioning Pu-239 that was created in situ ), and some of that Pu-239 is left over in the spent fuel.

The spent fuel also has fissioned products which are removed when you make MOX.

EVERY Plutonium atom that is in MOX has been in a reactor before; that's where it got made.

FBaggins is correct; this whole folderol about Unit-3 being "special" because MOX was added is really nothing more than a "red herring". ALL those reactors had plutonium in them, whether MOX was added or not; and the reactors are designed to run perfectly well with plutonium in them.

As I stated above; nearly half (40%) of the energy you get from a commercial power reactor comes from burning plutonium.

PamW

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looks as appetizing as the tanked water in LA hotels. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2013 #1
I understand that the taste was a bit "off". NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #3
Cherenkov blue nt Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #26
Cherenkov? I don't think so. PamW Feb 2013 #29
That would be true if the reactors were active and thus the highest source of radiation Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #30
Two years, right? RobertEarl Feb 2013 #2
Gundersen's theory was disproven as soon as we knew SFP3 held water. FBaggins Feb 2013 #4
So, under the bus with Gunderson is your point eh? Vinnie From Indy Feb 2013 #5
Under the bus? FBaggins Feb 2013 #7
Yes RobertEarl Feb 2013 #6
Sorry... you still haven't gotten any closer to knowing what you're talking about. FBaggins Feb 2013 #8
Duke paid attention to MOX RobertEarl Feb 2013 #9
None of that's true. FBaggins Feb 2013 #10
Yep, Plutonium all over. RobertEarl Feb 2013 #11
Duke wouldn't be processing their plutonium for them FBaggins Feb 2013 #13
You got one thing right. RobertEarl Feb 2013 #15
Nope. Got 'em all right. FBaggins Feb 2013 #16
Nothing about costs too much RobertEarl Feb 2013 #17
WRONG!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!! PamW Feb 2013 #19
I know. How dare i question the science!! RobertEarl Feb 2013 #22
You have a right to your own opinion.. PamW Feb 2013 #25
If you knew the history, you would know that's what "unable to reach agreement" meant. FBaggins Feb 2013 #21
Nothing about costs yet? RobertEarl Feb 2013 #23
Actually, there was another hydrogen explosion.. PamW Feb 2013 #27
FBaggins is correct!! PamW Feb 2013 #31
Gundersen is a FIRST CLASS IDIOT!!! PamW Feb 2013 #18
Arnie is one great guy RobertEarl Feb 2013 #20
Arnie is an IDIOT!!! PamW Feb 2013 #24
High radiation bars decommissioning of Fukushima plant kristopher Feb 2013 #12
Wrong thread FBaggins Feb 2013 #14
Uh-oh. I think I see a Despair Squid. n/t Ian David Feb 2013 #28
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