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In reply to the discussion: How overpopulated is the planet, really? [View all]NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)30. So, even the Georgia Guidestones figure of "500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature", is high.
I like your logic and 7 BILLION is definitely not gonna work!
50 million is where we were in 1,000 BC; 500 million the world population circa 1,500 AC. http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/history/world-population-growth.htm
I have to think that the magic number is somewhere in between, but so much depends on the terms of the populations and technologies employed.
Inscriptions
A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones. Moving clockwise around the structure from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese and Russian.
Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Guide reproduction wisely improving fitness and diversity.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
Rule passion faith tradition and all things with tempered reason.
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Balance personal rights with social duties.
Prize truth beauty love seeking harmony with the infinite.
Be not a cancer on the earth Leave room for nature Leave room for nature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones. Moving clockwise around the structure from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese and Russian.
Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Guide reproduction wisely improving fitness and diversity.
Unite humanity with a living new language.
Rule passion faith tradition and all things with tempered reason.
Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Balance personal rights with social duties.
Prize truth beauty love seeking harmony with the infinite.
Be not a cancer on the earth Leave room for nature Leave room for nature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
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This morning I did a little thought experiment on involuntary population decline
GliderGuider
Mar 2013
#20
I think that if you're right, you should take it up with the OP poster.
BlancheSplanchnik
Mar 2013
#34
Why is your upper limit "a non-energy-assisted society of hunter-forager-gardeners"?
Jim Lane
Mar 2013
#18
Because my definition of "sustainability" is too strict to allow for technological renewables
GliderGuider
Mar 2013
#19
Thanks for the clarification, but I disagree -- there should be some room for technology.
Jim Lane
Mar 2013
#31
So, even the Georgia Guidestones figure of "500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature", is high.
NYC_SKP
Mar 2013
#30
My assumption about the number that represents sustainability is just that - an assumption
GliderGuider
Mar 2013
#35