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wtmusic

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7. Here's your graph of that "thousands of turbines" scenario - in real time

Tue Apr 2, 2013, 03:51 PM

Apr 2013

That's California today (blue line is wind) and each one of those bumps, were it not smoothed by the independent system operator with large amounts of CCGT, would take the entire system down. It takes lots of carbon to accommodate your "carbon-free" turbines.

Nuclear is not displayed because it would look very much like the grey line of geothermal for periods of 3-5 years straight.

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In California, Nuclear Turns Off and Prices Go Up [View all] wtmusic Apr 2013 OP

more evidence that depending on intermittent sources like nuclear inevitably raise prices greenman3610 Apr 2013 #1

That graph would be a daily graph for wind wtmusic Apr 2013 #2

unless of course you had greenman3610 Apr 2013 #4

Here's your graph of that "thousands of turbines" scenario - in real time wtmusic Apr 2013 #7

We do have thousands of wind turbines soread over a large area FBaggins Apr 2013 #17

Oh come on. gcomeau Apr 2013 #3

hehe heh. That got the desired response greenman3610 Apr 2013 #5

The reactors at San Onofre are refueled every 7 years wtmusic Apr 2013 #6

Sorry... you don't know what you're talking about. FBaggins Apr 2013 #13

I�m curious OKIsItJustMe Apr 2013 #8

The spikes follow natural gas prices wtmusic Apr 2013 #9

I guess I�m having a hard trouble seeing the signal for the noise then OKIsItJustMe Apr 2013 #11

See #10 nt wtmusic Apr 2013 #12

It's not the overall trend... gcomeau Apr 2013 #10

Correct me if I�m wrong OKIsItJustMe Apr 2013 #14

I'm missing the relevance? -nt gcomeau Apr 2013 #15

Sorry, confusion on my part OKIsItJustMe Apr 2013 #16