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In reply to the discussion: New (Flow) Battery Design Could Help Solar and Wind Energy Power the Grid [View all]OKIsItJustMe
(21,734 posts)15. Or, put another way, it’s about 80% efficient
So, is that high? Is that low? (Compared to what?)
Is it a worse efficiency than a stationary battery? (Why?)
What other grid storage technologies are out there?
How efficient are they?
What is their energy density?
What is their power density?
How responsive are they to momentary fluctuations?
How much do they cost?
http://energy.gov/articles/smoothing-renewable-wind-energy-texas
[font face=Serif][font size=5]Smoothing Renewable Wind Energy in Texas[/font]
April 9, 2013 - 10:57am
[font size=3]Last month, a small west Texas town was the site of an important first: The commissioning of North America's largest battery storage project at a wind farm. The Notrees Wind Storage Demonstration Project has implications that may eventually ripple across America, from moving us closer to realizing the potential of renewable energy to improving the reliability and efficiency of the electric grid and increasing our energy independence.
The Notrees Project is one of 16 energy storage demonstration projects supported by the Department under its Recovery Act-funded Smart Grid Energy Storage Demonstration Program. The project received $22 million from DOE, which was matched by $22 million from Duke Energy, for a total of $44 million. The system integration was performed by Xtreme Power.
The Notrees project is an important pilot project using storage to help stabilize the frequency of electricity provided to the Energy Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which manages approximately 85 percent of the states electric load. The Notrees project is expected to help facilitate broader adoption of energy solutions by providing a model for industry to follow. Widespread adoption, in turn, should provide alternatives to fossil-fueled energy -- further reducing our dependence on foreign oil -- and additional resources to the grid, ultimately leading to a more stable electricity delivery system and lower cost.
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April 9, 2013 - 10:57am
The Notrees Wind Storage Demonstration Project is a 36-megawatt energy storage and power management system, which completed testing and became fully operational in December. It shows how energy storage can moderate the intermittent nature of wind by storing excess energy when the wind is blowing and making it available later to the electric grid to meet customer demand.
[font size=3]Last month, a small west Texas town was the site of an important first: The commissioning of North America's largest battery storage project at a wind farm. The Notrees Wind Storage Demonstration Project has implications that may eventually ripple across America, from moving us closer to realizing the potential of renewable energy to improving the reliability and efficiency of the electric grid and increasing our energy independence.
The Notrees Project is one of 16 energy storage demonstration projects supported by the Department under its Recovery Act-funded Smart Grid Energy Storage Demonstration Program. The project received $22 million from DOE, which was matched by $22 million from Duke Energy, for a total of $44 million. The system integration was performed by Xtreme Power.
The Notrees project is an important pilot project using storage to help stabilize the frequency of electricity provided to the Energy Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which manages approximately 85 percent of the states electric load. The Notrees project is expected to help facilitate broader adoption of energy solutions by providing a model for industry to follow. Widespread adoption, in turn, should provide alternatives to fossil-fueled energy -- further reducing our dependence on foreign oil -- and additional resources to the grid, ultimately leading to a more stable electricity delivery system and lower cost.
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New (Flow) Battery Design Could Help Solar and Wind Energy Power the Grid [View all]
OKIsItJustMe
Apr 2013
OP
Very interesting. A major fallacy in the energy world is that the same technology can
BlueStreak
Apr 2013
#1
Compressed H2 reformed from natural gas is significantly more efficient used in an FCV
wtmusic
Apr 2013
#27
“Apparently the difference has to do with electricity used in the reforming process.”
OKIsItJustMe
Apr 2013
#36
That may all be true. What it boils down is that both camps are hoping for a miracle
BlueStreak
Apr 2013
#26

