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In reply to the discussion: New (Flow) Battery Design Could Help Solar and Wind Energy Power the Grid [View all]OKIsItJustMe
(21,734 posts)22. Um… perhaps they want an actual clean technology
If you create fleets of natural gas fueled ICE cars, thats what theyll be.
If you reform natural gas and use the hydrogen in a FCEV its actually (somewhat) more efficient.
Then, you can transition to more and more renewable hydrogen.
http://www.cleantechinvestor.com/portal/fuel-cells/10443-integrated-hydrogen-and-renewables-projects-in-europe.html
When more wind power is available at the site than can be accepted by the network, a series of electrolysers are used to generate hydrogen which is stored on site. This stored energy, effectively acting as renewable base-load energy, is used in a number of ways:
. The hydrogen can be mixed with biogas and fed into cogeneration plants which produce electricity and heat. The electricity can then be fed back into the grid at times when little or no wind is available; the heat is fed into a district heating network, increasing the overall efficiency of the hybrid power plant.
. The hydrogen is also used as a fuel by TOTAL hydrogen refuelling stations in Berlin and Hamburg which support fleets of fuel cell vehicles.
Berlin Brandenburg Airport (BER) is also interested in using hydrogen from this project to fuel its vehicle fleet which is planned to be operational by June 2012.
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New (Flow) Battery Design Could Help Solar and Wind Energy Power the Grid [View all]
OKIsItJustMe
Apr 2013
OP
Very interesting. A major fallacy in the energy world is that the same technology can
BlueStreak
Apr 2013
#1
Compressed H2 reformed from natural gas is significantly more efficient used in an FCV
wtmusic
Apr 2013
#27
“Apparently the difference has to do with electricity used in the reforming process.”
OKIsItJustMe
Apr 2013
#36
That may all be true. What it boils down is that both camps are hoping for a miracle
BlueStreak
Apr 2013
#26
